Footystats, footy's best kept secret – 2009, Pertinent Observations

A Footystats supplement
 other interesting trivia – MWB's 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003 and 2002 files
Sept 22, 2009 Brownlow 2009 – votes by club; by round
Sept 2, 2009 The Full Picture update after Round 22 – observations on the season
August 13, 2009 The Full Picture update after Round 19
August 5, 2009 The Full Picture update after Round 18
August 4, 2009 Same round – 1, 2, 4 point margins
July 31, 2009 Sydney – are they St Kilda's achilles heel?
July 25, 2009 A goal in mind ... Carlton's goal a quarter versus Collingwood
July 24, 2009 Prognostications to ladder positions after Round 16
July 24, 2009 The Full Picture update after Round 16
July 21, 2009 Brother versus brother
July 15, 2009 Update –home, away ladders update; also form ladder, attendances at R15
July 9, 2009 VFL–AFL heavyweight title changes
July 7, 2009 Home, away ladders update – also form ladder
June 25, 2009 Consecutive wins–losses at a venue
June 24, 2009 40+ disposals and tackles
June 10, 2009 Players: consecutive matches
June 2, 2009 The Full Picture update after Round 10
May 27, 2009 The Full Picture update after Round 9
May 5, 2009 The Saints finally lose a quarter!
April 30, 2009 Consecutive quarters won and lost
April 30, 2009 Consecutive matches winning all quarters
April 25, 2009 Winning twice in Adelaide in the same season
April 21, 2009 Target 50K, ANZAC Day
March 31, 2009 After Round 1: Only 672 quarters to be played
March 18, 2009 NAB Cup: Can Melbourne take heart on "improvement"?
March 11, 2009 NAB Cup: Friday night pre-season play-off is first since 1997
March 6, 2009 NAB Cup: Pre-season ladders as we enter the semi-finals
February 19, 2009 NAB Cup: Thursday night is not new
February 17, 2009 NAB Cup: Five 'super goals' and lost!
January 28, 2009 NAB Cup: Sydney have a lot of catching up to do
January 12, 2009 The 1990s reached q goalkicking peak
November 1, 2008 Observations on the 2009 draw
October 25, 2008 Season 2009 – the fixture – venue split and timeslot split

 

Tuesday, September 22, 2009

 Martin Windsor-Black
Brownlow 2009 – votes by club; by round
Gary Ablett is first number 29 to win the Brownlow. 
 
In receiving votes in 13 games (his ratio of 3-2-1 was 8-1-4),  Ablett has joined an exclusive group ...
 
Most votes in Most games in a season
14 Des Fothergill (Col) 1940 (32)
14 J. Herbie Matthews (SM) 1940 (32)
14 Robert Harvey (StK) 1998 (32)
 
13 Alistair Lord (Gee) 1962 (28)
13 Chris Judd (WCE) 2004 (30)
13 Gary Ablett (Gee) 2009 (30)
 
It's interesting to note that when Robert Harvey received 32 in 1998, the nearest Saint was Peter Everitt with 9 votes. 
In this count 6 Saints reached double figures.
 
This year a total of 201 players were awarded votes – 7 fewer than last year.
There were 23 ineligible players given votes from 14 clubs (compared to 22 players from 13 clubs last year) –
 
For the second year in a row, Hawthorn had the most number of ineligible players with 3 (Mitchell, Franklin and Bateman).  Collingwood and Essendon also had 3 ineligible players.
* Sam Mitchell received the most number of votes for an ineligible player - 13 
 
Western Bulldogs had the most number of players with votes (17).  North Melbourne had the least players (9)
 
The winning sides received 904 of the 1056 votes (up from 893 last year)
The losing sides received 140 of the 1056 votes (down from 151 last year)
For the second year in a row there were 2 draws.
 
St Kilda's previous best count was in 1971 when 17 players polled and received a total of 91 votes.
This time 14 Saints received 110 votes. The third highest behind Essendon 116 (2000) and Geelong 112 (2008)
 
St Kilda received all 6 votes in 13 of their 20 wins.  They received votes in every game and were the only team to do so. Geelong missed out on votes in Round 15.
 
North Melbourne and Richmond polled all 6 votes just once each.
 
Reigning premier Hawthorn failed to poll in 9 matches.  Only Melbourne faired worse – failing to poll in 11 matches.
 
8 players received 3 votes in a losing side.
Matthew Richardson (Rch) – Rnd 2 and Rnd 4
Chris Judd (Car) – Rnd 3
Adam Goodes (Syd) – Rnd 7
*Jared Brennan (Bri) – Rnd 9
*Colin Sylvia (Mel) - Rnd 9
Andrew McLeod (Ade) – Rnd 19
Simon Black (Bri) – Rnd 20
- Gary Ablett (Gee) – Rnd 21
 
Matthew Richardson was the only player to receive 3 votes in a losing side twice – making up his total of 6 for the season – and the most by a Tiger. Next best was Cousins, Deledio, Jackson and Tambling with 5 votes.
  2009 BROWLOW MEDAL - BY CLUB
  Team Total Votes # Players Players & Votes (Rank) Average
1 St Kilda 110 14 20 Lenny Hayes (3), 17 Nick Dal Santo (6), 15 Nick Riewoldt (9), 14 Brendon Goddard (12), 13 Leigh Montagna (14), 11 *Justin Koschitzke (23), 5 *Michael Gardiner (64), 5 Farren Ray (64), 3 David Armitage (106), 2 Jason Gram (137), 2 Stephen Milne (137), 1 Luke Ball (165), 1 Sam Gilbert (165), 1 Clinton Jones (165) 7.86
2 Geelong 98 13 30 Gary Ablett (1), 16 Joel Selwood (8), 13 Jimmy Bartel (14), 12 Paul Chapman (20), 7 *Joel Corey (42), 6 Steve Johnson (54), 3 Shannon Byrnes (106), 3 Matthew Scarlett (106), 2 Cameron Ling (137), 2 Darren Milburn (137), 2 *Cameron Mooney (137), 1 Brad Ottens (165), 1 Harry Taylor (165) 7.54
3 Brisbane 85 15 19 Simon Black (4), 19 Jonathan Brown (4), 9 Luke Power (35), 8 Mitch Clark (39), 6 Daniel Rich (54), 5 Travis Johnstone (64), 4 *Jared Brennan (88), 3 Jed Adcock (106), 3 Joel Patfull (106), 2 Brad Dalziell (137), 2 Ashley McGrath (137), 2 Daniel Merrett (137), 1 Daniel Bradshaw (165), 1 Josh Drummond (165), 1 Justin Sherman (165)19 Simon Black (4) 5.67
4 Adelaide 83 15 13 Bernie Vince (14), 11 Scott Thompson (23), 7 Tyson Edwards (42), 7 Andrew McLeod (42), 7 Kurt Tippett (42), 6 Michael Doughty (54), 6 Simon Goodwin (54), 5 Chris Knights (64), 4 Nathan Bock (88), 4 Jason Porplyzia (88), 3 Richard Douglas (106), 3 Andy Otten (106), 3 Brent Reilly (106), 3 Ben Rutten (106), 1 Taylor Walker (165) 5.53
5 Carlton 78 12 22 Chris Judd (2), 15 Bryce Gibbs (9), 15 Marc Murphy (9), 11 Brendan Fevola (23), 5 *Kade Simpson (64), 2 Eddie Betts (137), 2 Nick Stevens (137), 2 Bret Thornton (137), 1 Richard Hadley (165), 1 Matthew Kreuzer (165), 1 Setanta O’hAilpin (165), 1 Jarrad Waite (165) 6.50
6 Western Bulldogs 78 17 14 Matthew Boyd (12), 11 Shaun Higgins (23), 10 *Jason Akermanis (29), 8 Daniel Cross (39), 7 Brian Lake (42), 5 Daniel Giansiracusa (64), 4 Ryan Griffen (88), 4 Mitch Hahn (88), 3 Adam Cooney (106), 3 Jarrod Harbrow (106), 2 Nathan Eagleton (137), 2 Lindsay Gilbee (137), 1 Dylan Addison (165), 1 Ryan Hargrave (165), 1 Josh Hill (165), 1 Brad Johnson (165), 1 Robert Murphy (165) 4.59
7 Collingwood 75 14 13 Scott Pendlebury (14), 12 Alan Didak (20), 12 Sane Swan (20), 10 Leon Davis (29), 6 Josh Fraser (54), 5 Dayne Beams (64), 5 *Heath Shaw (64), 3 Tarkyn Lockyer (106), 3 * Nick Maxwell (106), 2 Travis Cloke (137), 1 *John Anthony (165), 1 Brad Dick (165), 1 Paul Medhurst (165), 1 Simon Prestigiacomo (165) 5.36
8 Sydney 70 10 17 Adam Goodes (6), 11 Brett Kirk (23), 11 Ryan O’Keefe (23), 10 Jarred McVeigh (28), 6 Rhyce Shaw (54), 5 Craig Bolton (64), 3 *Barry Hall (106), 3 Martin Mattner (106), 2 Jude Bolton (137), 2 Darren Jolly (137) 7.00
9 Port Adelaide 60 14 7 David Rodan (42), 7 Warren Tredrea (42), 6 Robbie Gray (54), 5 Travis Boak (64), 5 *Domenic Cassisi (64), 5 Brett Ebert (64), 4 *Dean Brogan (88), 4 Kane Cornes (88), 4 Danyle Pearce (88), 3 Chad Cornes (106), 3 Daniel Motlop (106), 3 Jason Davenport (106), 3 Jacob Surjan (106), 1 Toby Thurstans (165) 4.29
10 Essendon 58 13 10 Jobe Watson (28), 10 Jason Winderlich (28), 8 Brent Stanton (39), 5 Dustin Fletcher (64), 5 Andrew Lovett (64), 5 *Patrick Ryder (64), 3 *Matthew Lloyd (106), 3 Angus Monfries (106), 3 Andrew Welsh (106), 2 Michael Hurley (137), 2 Scott Lucas (137), 1 Alwyn Davey (165), 1 *Adam McPhee (165) 4.46
11 West Coast 53 14 9 Mark LeCras (36), 7 Matt Priddis (42), 6 *Daniel Kerr (54), 5 Dean Cox (64), 5 Shannon Hurn (64), 4 Adam A Selwood (88), 4 Andrew Embley (88), 3 Darren Glass (106), 3 Quinten Lynch (106), 3 Tom Swift (106), 1 Tim Houlihan (165), 1 Nick Naitanui (165), 1 Matt Rosa (165), 1 David Wirrpanda (165) 3.79
12 Hawthorn 50 10 13 *Sam Mitchell (14), 13 Brad Sewell (14), 7 Luke Hodge (42), 4 *Lance Franklin (88), 4 Jarryd Roughead (88), 3 *Chance Bateman (106), 2 Jordan Lewis (137), 2 Cyril Rioli (137), 1 Brent Guerra (165), 1 Ben McGlynn (165) 5.00
13 North Melbourne 44 9 9 Brent Harvey (36), 7 Adam Simpson (42), 7 Andrew Swallow (42), 5 *Drew Petrie (64), 4 Josh Gibson (88), 4 David Hale (88), 4 Hamish McIntosh (88), 2 Todd Goldstein (137), 2 Leigh Harding (137) 4.89
14 Fremantle 42 10 10 Matthew Pavlich (29), 10 Aaron Sandilands (29), 7 Paul Hasleby (42), 4 Stephen Hill (88), 3 Paul Duffield (106), 3 Luke McPharlin (106), 2 Greg Broughton (137), 1 Kepler Bradley (165), 1 Michael Johnson (165), 1 Chris Mayne (165) 4.20
15 Richmond 41 11 6 Matthew Richardson (54), 5 Ben Cousins (64), 5 Brett Deledio (64), 5 Daniel Jackson (64), 5 Richard Tambling (64), 4 Nathan Foley (88), 3 Robin Nahas (106), 3 *Jack Riewoldt (106), 2 Chris Newman (137), 2 Shane Tuck (137), 1 Trent Cotchin (165) 3.73
16 Melbourne 31 10 6 Aaron Davey (54), 5 Brent Moloney (64), 5 *Colin Sylvia (64), 4 Nathan Jones (88), 3 Jack Grimes (106), 2 Matthew Bate (137), 2 Paul Johnson (137), 2 James McDonald (137), 1 Brock McLean (165), 1 Shane Valenti (165) 3.10
  TOTALS 1056 201 * ineligible (23 players) 5.25

Breakup of Each team's Brownlow Votes by Round
2009 W-L-D performance
  R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 R7 R8 R9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 Win Loss Draw TOTAL

6-votes

0-votes
ADE W5 L1 W5 L0 W6 L0 L0 L0 W5 W6 W6 W6 W6 W4 W6 L0 W6 L0 L4 W6 W6 W6 78 5 - 83 9 6
BRI W5 L0 W6 L2 L0 W6 W5 W6 L3 W4 L2 W6 W6 L0 W6 W5 W6 L1 D4 L3 W4 W5 70 11 4 85 7 3
CAR W6 W6 L3 L0 W6 L1 L0 W6 L1 W6 W4 L2 L0 W6 W5 W4 L0 W6 W4 W6 W6 L0 71 7 - 78 9 5
COL L1 W5 L0 W4 L1 W6 L0 L0 W6 W4 W4 W3 W5 W6 W5 L0 W6 W5 W2 W6 W4 L2 71 4 - 75 5 4
ESS L2 W6 W3 L1 W5 L0 W6 L2 W5 L0 L0 W6 W6 L0 W4 L0 L0 L0 D2 W5 L0 W5 51 5 2 58 4 8
FRE L0 L0 L1 L0 W4 W5 W6 L1 L1 L2 L1 L1 L1 L0 L0 L1 25 L1 W6 L0 W6 L0 32 10 - 42 3 7
GEE W4 W3 W6 W6 W6 W6 W3 W6 W4 W6 W4 W5 W6 L2 L0 W6 W3 W6 L2 W5 L3 W6 91 7 - 98 10 1
HAW L2 L0 W6 L0 W6 W5 L0 W5 W3 L0 W4 L0 L0 L0 W4 W6 L3 L1 L0 L0 W4 L1 43 7 - 50 3 9
MEL L1 L1 L0 W3 L0 L0 L2 L2 L3 L0 L2 L0 L0 W6 W3 L0 L0 L2 L0 W6 L0 L0 18 13 - 31 2 11
NM W5 L2 L0 W5 L1 L0 W4 L0 W5 L2 L0 L0 L0 L1 L2 D4 L0 L0 W6 L0 W4 W3 32 8 4 44 1 9
PA W4 L0 W6 W6 L0 W6 L2 W4 L0 L2 W5 L0 L0 W6 L3 W6 L0 W5 L0 L0 L2 L3 48 12 - 60 5 8
RCH L0 L3 L0 L3 W5 L0 L1 L2 L1 W4 L1 W5 L0 L1 L1 D2 W6 W4 L0 L0 L2 L0 24 15 2 41 1 7
STK W6 W5 W6 W6 W6 W6 W6 W4 W3 W6 W6 W4 W6 W4 W5 W6 W6 W4 W6 L1 L2 W6 107 3 - 110 13 0
SYD L0 W6 L0 W6 L2 W6 L3 W6 W6 L1 L2 L3 L2 W5 L2 L2 W6 L2 W6 L1 L2 L1 47 23 - 70 7 2
WCE L1 W6 L0 W6 L0 L1 W4 L0 L0 L0 L2 L1 W6 L0 L1 L0 L1 W6 W6 W6 L0 W6 46 7 - 53 7 8
WB W6 W4 W6 L0 L0 L0 W6 W4 L2 W5 W5 W6 W6 W6 L1 W6 L0 W5 L0 W3 W3 W4 75 3 - 78 7 5
Win 41 41 44 42 44 46 40 41 37 41 38 41 45 44 38 39 44 41 36 43 37 41 904      
Loss 7 7 4 6 4 2 8 7 11 7 10 7 3 4 10 3 4 7 6 5 11 7   140  
Draw                               6     6           12

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Wednesday, September 2, 2009

 Martin Windsor-Black
Observations on season 2009
The Full Picture update after Round 22

This is the first time in 25 years that the trio of Collingwood, Carlton and Essendon have all featured in the finals together.
 
In 1984, The top five was Essendon, Hawthorn, Carlton, Collingwood and Fitzroy (and St Kilda won the wooden spoon)
 
The last time all 3 missed the finals was in 1997 when Collingwood were 10th, Carton 11th and Essendon 14th – that year, the top 3 sides at the end of the home and away were St Kilda, Geelong and Western Bulldogs (the same order they are now!).  Adelaide won the premiership from 4th after defeating West Coast, Geelong, Western Bulldogs and St Kilda in turn – the first side to win the premiership after winning four finals.  Could they do it again?  They are currently the in-form team going into the finals.
 
The following is pending any corrections to the attendance figures for the final round.
 
The AFL will need a boost in their finals attendances after recording the lowest home and away figures in 3 years. (2007:  6,475,521 – 2008: 6,511,885 – 2009: 6,369,612)
 
This is despite Carlton recording  their best ever attendances in away matches with 573,582 bettering their previous best of 536,017 in 2008.
 
North Melbourne recorded their worst away attendance total (of 287,936) for 16 years when 240,183 attended their away matches in 1993.
 
Just what is happening with the Port? 
 
Port Adelaide have recorded their second worst home attendance since joining the competition - and 34% down from their high in 2007 (just 2 years ago) -
 
Port Adelaide home attendances
2002   343,356
2009   357,471
2001   367,181
2006   383,927
1997   389,203
2004   406,570 (premiership year)
2000   409,064
1999   416,173
2008   421,974
2003   423,143
1998   442,834
2005   445,699
2007   545,094
 
Port Adelaide's best home attendance at Football Park (sans Adelaide) was in Round 1 when just 28,315 saw them defeat Essendon.
This was lower than Adelaide's worst attendance at Football Park of 30,173 when North Melbourne visited in Round 12 and managed to kick just 3.6-24
 
 
Here are some more observations I have noted.
 
All the top eight sides scored more than 2000, and all the bottom sides less than 2000
 
Despite having 2 goalkickers with 50 goals, Brisbane are the only finalist who did not kick 300 goals in the home and away
 
The scoring accuracy (percentage of scoring shots that were goals) for each team ranged between 51 and 57%  - the last time all teams kicked more goals than behinds was in 2005 (when Essendon, Hawthorn, Collingwood and Carlton occupied the bottom three places and Adelaide won the minor premiership after winning their last 10 games.
 
Geelong were the only team which did not lose to a bottom eight side (thanks to St Kilda's loss to North) - winning all 12 matches.
 
Melbourne were the only team which did not defeat a top eight side losing all 11.
 
Brisbane's final against Carlton will be their 9th consecutive match at night.
 – Carlton's last 3 matches in Qld have been single digit results..... losing to Freo and defeating Brisbane twice by a goal
2008-R21-BCG – Bri 16.13-109 v Car 18.7-115  by 6pts
2009-R7-C(n) – Car 11.15-81 v Fre 13.10-88  by 7pts
2009-R11-BCG(n) – Bri 16.10-106 v Car 16.16-112  by 6pts
 
St Kilda have not won back-to-back consecutive games at the MCG since their premiership in 1966. - A feat they will repeat if they defeat Collingwood again on Sunday.
1966-PF-MCG – StK 15.4-94 v Ess 7.10-52  by 42pts
1966-GF-MCG – Col 10.13-73 v StK 10.14-74  by 1pt
 
The last team to defeat the Dogs on the MCG was the Cats in last years preliminary final.
2008-1PF-MCG – Gee 12.11-83 v WB 7.12-54  by 29pts
 
 
Bruce and Michael noted the interesting statistic from the Collingwood v Western Bulldogs game were both had the same tally of behind at the end of each quarter. I noticed that 2 of the 4 quarters in the game were drawn (both scored 3.3 in the 1st and 4.5 in the 3rd quarters)
 
The following is a list of matches I have where at least 2 quarters have been drawn..
 
Drawn 1st, 2nd and 4th quarters (only match where more than 2 quarters have been drawn)
1901-R13-BS – Fit 2.7-19 v Col 3.6-24  by 5pts
 
Drawn 1st and 2nd quarters
1909-GF-MCG – SM 4.14-38 v Car 4.12-36  by 2pts
1924-R13-WH – Ess 10.14-74 v Gee 8.14-62  by 12pts
1936-R11-GO – Haw 8.19-67 v NM 7.11-53  by 14pts
1943-R13-WH – Ess 11.24-90 v Fit 8.8-56  by 34pts
1957-R7-PR – Rch 7.10-52 v Mel 6.14-50  by 2pts
1972-R14-M – StK 4.13-37 v Col 9.13-67  by 30pts
1983-R15-P – Fsc 9.6-60 v Haw 13.11-89  by 29pts
2003-R13-MCG – Mel 21.10-136 v StK 14.10-94  by 42pts
2004-R11-Dok – WB 10.7-67 v Gee 17.11-113  by 46pts
2008-R16-KP – Gee 19.17-131 v WB 10.10-70  by 61pts
 
Drawn 1st and 3rd quarters
1905-R12-AP – SM 3.3-21 v Col 4.5-29  by 8pts
1920-GF-MCG – Rch 7.10-52 v Col 5.5-35  by 17pts
1923-R4-MCG – Mel 11.18-84 v SM 6.13-49  by 35pts
1933-R10-AP – SM 13.10-88 v Mel 12.9-81  by 7pts
1939-R3-AP – SM 9.14-68 v Fit 10.17-77  by 9pts
1956-2SF-MCG – Mel 11.14-80 v Col 8.16-64  by 16pts
1969-R18-AP – SM 16.17-113 v Fsc 13.18-96  by 17pts
2009-R22-Dok – Col 10.16-76 v WB 14.16-100  by 24pts
 
Drawn 1st and 4th quarters
1924-R7-JO – StK 12.13-85 v Fit 14.9-93  by 8pts
1924-R12-CO – Gee 9.14-68 v Fit 9.11-65  by 3pts
1949-R10-WH – Ess 8.19-67 v Fit 10.10-70  by 3pts
1956-R14-PP – Car 8.18-66 v StK 9.12-66  DRAWN
1961-R16-MCG – Mel 12.17-89 v Gee 12.15-87  by 2pts
1967-R3-MCG – Rch 11.12-78 v Fit 7.11-53  by 25pts
 
Drawn 2nd and 3rd quarters
1904-R3-VP – Col 4.5-29 v SM 7.13-55  by 26pts
1910-F-MCG – SM 6.8-44 v Col 8.7-55  by 11pts
1934-R14-MCG – Mel 13.10-88 v Gee 21.15-141  by 53pts
1952-R16-KP – Gee 12.16-88 v Fit 5.10-40  by 48pts
1995-R7-MCG(n) – Rch 10.12-72 v Ade 9.4-58  by 14pts
 
Drawn 2nd and 4th quarters
1955-R16-VP – Col 12.17-89 v Car 7.10-52  by 37pts
1986-R21-SCG – Syd 20.20-140 v StK 16.15-111  by 29pts
 
Drawn 3rd and 4th quarters
1897-R3-VP – Col 6.5-41 v Gee 5.7-37  by 4pts
1900-R9-EM – Ess 2.6-18 v Mel 6.8-44  by 26pts
1912-R8-PP – Car 8.16-64 v SM 6.10-46  by 18pts
1917-R8-VP – Col 11.11-77 v Fit 10.14-74  by 3pts
1931-R6-AP – SM 6.8-44 v Gee 13.15-93  by 49pts
1931-R14-CO – Gee 11.11-77 v Mel 6.9-45  by 32pts
1960-R17-VP – Col 8.3-51 v SM 5.9-39  by 12pts
1993-R1-S – WCE 17.21-123 v Ess 17.8-110  by 13pts
2001-R15-MCG – Haw 11.11-77 v Syd 14.14-98  by 21pts
2007-1PF-MCG(n) – Gee 13.14-92 v Col 13.9-87  by 5pts

2009 QUARTERS LADDER TO ROUND 22
 

Win-Lost-Drawn

   Quarter Perc 4-Qtr Results
  Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Tot QR Pts Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Tot Won Lost
1 St Kilda (1) 17-5-0 14-8-0 15-7-0 14-7-1 60-27-1 68.8% 242 142.2 153.9 165.7 163.7 155.7 6 -
2 Geelong (2) 16-6-0 12-9-1 14-8-0 10-11-1 52-34-2 60.2% 212 173.4 135.4 118.8 98.3 127.4 3 1
3 Brisbane (6) 11-11-0 14-7-1 14-7-1 12-10-0 51-35-2 59.1% 208 83.0 111.3 130.8 106.2 106.7 2 1
4 Collingwood (4) 11-10-1 12-10-0 15-6-1 12-9-1 50-35-3 58.3% 206 116.4 113.2 138.0 122.4 122.3 1 2
5 Carlton (7) 11-10-1 13-9-0 11-11-0 15-7-0 50-37-1 57.4% 202 105.4 115.3 98.3 123.2 110.5 4 1
6 Adelaide (5) 10-12-0 13-8-1 12-10-0 14-7-1 49-37-2 56.8% 200 117.0 145.3 92.2 125.3 117.6 2 1
7 Western Bulldogs (3) 10-10-2 13-9-0 10-11-1 14-6-2 47-36-5 56.3% 198 104.2 129.7 117.2 141.8 122.6 1 1
8 Hawthorn (9) 14-8-0 11-10-1 9-13-0 8-12-2 42-43-3 49.4% 174 99.2 97.9 95.2 79.8 92.5 2 1
9 Essendon (8) 9-13-0 7-14-1 15-6-1 11-11-0 42-44-2 48.9% 172 81.1 81.6 126.3 105.7 97.8 2 1
10 Sydney (12) 8-14-0 11-11-0 11-11-0 11-11-0 41-47-0 46.6% 164 97.5 86.7 94.9 83.9 93.1 - 2
11 West Coast (11) 10-12-0 11-10-1 10-12-0 8-12-2 39-46-3 46.0% 162 96.1 93.8 94.9 88.1 93.3 2 2
12 Port Adelaide (10) 11-11-0 10-12-0 8-14-0 10-10-2 39-47-2 45.5% 160 94.9 82.8 83.1 95.2 88.7 1 3
13 Fremantle (14) 12-10-0 7-15-0 11-11-0 4-15-3 34-51-3 40.3% 142 98.6 69.4 89.3 58.4 77.3 1 3
14 Melbourne (16) 8-13-1 8-14-0 6-16-0 10-12-0 32-55-1 36.9% 130 72.4 76.6 62.6 89.6 74.7 1 3
15 North Melbourne (13) 6-14-2 11-10-1 7-15-0 6-15-1 30-54-4 36.4% 128 78.5 96.9 82.2 76.3 83.4 1 4
16 Richmond (15) 8-13-1 5-16-1 6-16-0 9-13-0 28-58-2 33.0% 116 82.8 69.4 68.9 78.2 74.3 - 3
    172-172-4 172-172-4 174-172-4 168-168-8 686-686-18   29 29
2009 HOME LADDER AFTER ROUND 22
  P W L D For Agst Perc Pts MR
1 GEELONG 11 11 - - 1229 843 145.789 44 100.00
2 ST KILDA 11 10 1 - 1075 649 165.639 40 90.91
3 BRISBANE 11 8 3 - 1130 896 126.116 32 72.73
4 PORT ADELAIDE 11 8 3 - 1086 957 113.480 32 72.73
5 ADELAIDE 11 7 4 - 1056 797 132.497 28 63.64
6 WESTERN BULLDOGS 11 7 4 - 1171 920 127.283 28 63.64
7 WEST COAST 11 7 4 - 1055 876 120.434 28 63.64
8 ESSENDON 11 6 4 1 1132 1044 108.429 26 59.09
9 Collingwood 11 6 5 - 1025 946 108.351 24 54.55
10 Carlton 11 6 5 - 1145 1058 108.223 24 54.55
11 Sydney 11 6 5 - 1060 983 107.833 24 54.55
12 Hawthorn 11 5 6 - 907 992 91.431 20 45.45
13 Fremantle 11 4 7 - 1022 1061 96.324 16 36.36
14 North Melbourne 11 4 7 - 925 1071 86.368 16 36.36
15 Melbourne 11 3 8 - 865 1007 85.899 12 27.27
16 Richmond 11 1 9 1 886 1303 67.997 6 13.64
    176 99 75 2 16769 15403 108.868 400 56.82
2009 AWAY LADDER AFTER ROUND 22
  P W L D For Agst Perc Pts MR
1 ST KILDA 11 10 1 - 1122 762 147.244 40 90.91
2 COLLINGWOOD 11 9 2 - 1149 832 138.101 36 81.82
3 WESTERN BULLDOGS 11 8 3 - 1207 1020 118.333 32 72.73
4 CARLTON 11 7 4 - 1125 997 112.839 28 63.64
5 GEELONG 11 7 4 - 1083 972 111.420 28 63.64
6 ADELAIDE 11 7 4 - 1048 992 105.645 28 63.64
7 BRISBANE 11 5 5 1 887 994 89.235 22 50.00
8 HAWTHORN 11 4 7 - 1055 1128 93.528 16 36.36
9 Essendon 11 4 7 - 948 1083 87.535 16 36.36
10 Richmond 11 4 7 - 888 1085 81.843 16 36.36
11 North Melbourne 11 3 7 1 755 944 79.979 14 31.82
12 Sydney 11 2 9 - 828 1044 79.310 8 18.18
13 Fremantle 11 2 9 - 725 1198 60.518 8 18.18
14 West Coast 11 1 10 - 838 1153 72.680 4 9.09
15 Port Adelaide 11 1 10 - 904 1287 70.241 4 9.09
16 Melbourne 11 1 10 - 841 1278 65.806 4 9.09
    176 75 99 2 15403 16769 91.854 304 43.18

ATTENDANCE LADDER 2009*
  Club Total Gms Average HOME Gms Average Rank AWAY Gms Average Rank
1 Collingwood 1,189,932 22 54,087.82 587,782 11 53,434.7 1 602,150 11 54,740.9 1
2 Carlton 1,099,759 22 49,989.05 526,177 11 47,834.3 3 573,582 11 52,143.8 2
3 Essendon 1,089,224 22 49,510.18 554,147 11 50,377.0 2 535,077 11 48,643.4 3
4 Hawthorn 892,341 22 40,560.95 435,981 11 39,634.6 5 456,360 11 41,487.3 5
5 Richmond 868,117 22 39,459.86 474,818 11 43,165.3 4 393,299 11 35,754.5 8
6 Geelong 825,500 22 37,522.73 330,312 11 30,028.4 12 495,188 11 45,017.1 4
7 Western Bulldogs 781,144 22 35,506.55 361,647 11 32,877.0 10 419,497 11 38,136.1 6
8 St Kilda 767,209 22 34,873.14 373,397 11 33,945.2 8 393,812 11 35,801.1 7
9 Adelaide 761,080 22 34,594.55 426,806 11 38,800.5 6 334,274 11 30,388.5 10
10 West Coast 721,815 22 32,809.77 399,414 11 36,310.4 7 322,401 11 29,309.2 12
11 Sydney 678,927 22 30,806.32 335,552 11 30,504.7 11 343,375 11 31,215.9 9
12 Brisbane 642,309 22 29,195.86 320,896 11 29,172.4 13 321,413 11 29,219.4 13
13 Melbourne 632,972 22 28,771.45 303,268 11 27,569.8 15 329,704 11 29,973.1 11
14 Fremantle 631,008 22 28,682.18 364,589 11 33,144.5 9 266,419 11 24,219.9 16
15 North Melbourne 594,923 22 27,041.95 306,987 11 27,907.9 14 287,936 11 26,176.0 15
16 Port Adelaide 562,964 22 25,289.27 267,839 11 24,349.0 16 295,125 11 26,829.5 14
*Includes Audited and adjusted attendances to Round 22
  Ground Total Gms Average    
1 MCG 2,258,626 46 49,100.57    
2 Docklands 1,701,727 46 36,994.07    
3 Homebush 147,498 4 36,874.50    
4 Subiaco 764,003 22 34,727.41    
5 Football Park 694,645 22 31,574.77    
6 BCG (Gabba) 320,896 11 29,172.36    
7 SCG 188,054 7 26,864.86    
8 Kardinia Park 162,815 8 20,351.88    
9 York Park 69,609 4 17,402.25    
10 Marrara 11,306 1 11,306.00    
11 Carrara 30,580 3 10,193.33    
12 Manuka 19,853 2 9,926.50    
  TOTAL 6,369,612 176 36,190.98    
Form table ...

Here is the form table to Round 22, 2009.

    This
wk		 Last
wk		 Diff Last 5
wks		 Chg T8 B8 Hm Aw For-Ag
1. ADELAIDE(5) 193.83 141.05 52.78 133.04 +1 4-7 10-1 7-4 7-4 +315
2. COLLINGWOOD(4) 158.18 178.10 (19.93) 104.15 -1 6-6 9-1 6-5 9-2 +396
3. WEST.B'DOGS(3) 121.53 112.13 9.41 16.39 - 5-5 10-2 7-4 8-3 +438
4. ST KILDA(1) 115.70 109.37 6.32 (25.77) - 9-1 11-1 10-1 10-1 +786
5. BRISBANE(6) 44.83 35.87 8.96 (35.07) +2 3-7-1 10-1 8-3 5-5-1 +127
6. GEELONG(2) 32.74 43.20 (10.46) (45.71) - 6-4 12-0 11-0 7-4 +497
7. CARLTON(7) 20.29 79.00 (58.72) 37.16 -2 5-6 8-3 6-5 7-4 +215
8. WEST COAST(11) 1.68 (49.39) 51.07 73.75 +3 3-7 5-7 7-4 1-10 -136
9. Essendon(8) (15.54) (28.34) 12.80 (34.46) -1 4-6-1 6-5 6-4-1 4-7 -47
10. North Melbourne(13) (30.04) (51.86) 12.83 74.43 +2 2-9 5-5-1 4-7 3-7-1 -335
11. Hawthorn(9) (46.37) (36.60) (9.78) (24.99) -1 2-9 7-4 5-6 4-7 -158
12. Sydney(12) (51.08) (36.12) (14.96) 4.16 -3 1-12 7-2 6-5 2-9 -139
13. Fremantle(14) (96.60) (102.89) 6.28 27.20 - 2-11 4-5 4-7 2-9 -512
14. Port Adelaide(10) (121.46) (111.57) (9.89) (69.84) - 3-7 6-6 8-3 1-10 -254
15. Melbourne(16) (136.64) (129.44) (7.20) (59.96) - 0-11 4-7 3-8 1-10 -579
16. Richmond(15) (191.04) (152.52) (38.53) (176.48) - 1-10 4-6-1 1-9-1 4-7 -614

Legend: T8 - record against the teams currently in the top eight; B8 - Record against the teams currently in the bottom eight.; Hm - Record as the 'home' team; Aw - Record as the 'Away' team; For-Ag - Points For minus Points Against

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Thursday, August 13, 2009

 Martin Windsor-Black
The Full Picture update after Round 19
After defeating the Hawks last weekend, St Kilda have won their last 22 home and away matches – scoring 332.278-2270 (av 103.18 per game) and conceding a miserly 190.185-1325 (av 60.23 per game) – with an impressive percentage of 171.321. Geelong are next closest having lost 3 games and conceded 269.191-1805 (av 82.05 per game).

In 1929 Collingwood won all 18 home and away matches by an average of 44.5 points (scoring an average of 106.5 pts per game and conceding just 1117 points – 62.05 per game.
 
Year, club Av. score Agnst %
1929 Col 106.5 60.2 171.7
2009 StK 100.8 71.5 163.8

Despite winning all their home and away matches, Collingwood were thrashed by 3rd placed Richmond by 62 points in the Semi-Final – Rch 18.15-123 d Col 8.13-61. Richmond then went on to defeat Carlton in the final, however, under the "Argus system" at the time Collingwood had the right to challenge the premiership as minor premiers, even though it lost the semi-final.

The same system saw Geelong challenge Collingwood in 1925 to record their first premiership since 1886 in the VFA, and Collingwood challenged Geelong in 1930 despite losing the preliminary final – and take out its fourth premiership in a row. This controversial Argus system was replaced in 1931 by the McIntyre Final four when Geelong ended Collingwood's domination.


St Kilda also have a 3 game buffer over Geelong on the 30 Match ladder largely due to their impressive away record. They have just one loss against all opponents – against Brisbane at the Gabba (2008-R9-BCG - Bri 21.15-141 v StK 14.11-95) – we will have to wait on next season's fixture to see if this pairing occurs.
 St Kilda's 2 home losses were against North Melbourne (2007-R11-Dok StK 8.10-58 v NM 11.14-80) and Collingwood (2008-R8-Dok(n) StK 14.10-94 v Col 16.7-103)
The Saints are at home to North next weekend (in Round 21) on Sunday August 23 - but will have to wait until next season to see if they are paired against Collingwood.

On current form, St Kilda's biggest threats may come from Collingwood, Western Bulldogs, and Brisbane.

North Melbourne have completed their 11 home matches having won just 4 with a percentage of 86.4 – the attendance of 306,987 at 27,907.9 per game is the second lowest ahead of Port Adelaide. Their last 3 games are away to West Coast, St Kilda and Port Adelaide. In their 8 away games so far North have just one win and a draw.

Richmond are the only side who have not beaten a opponent currently in the top 8 – this weekend's game against Collingwood will be their last chance to break this drought.

Hawthorn lost every quarter against St Kilda - the first time they have lost all 4 quarters this season and their quarter percentages are all below 100 – (90.8, 99.8, 97.1, 79.4).

This leaves Essendon as the only team (except for St Kilda) who have not lost every quarter in a game this season.

Even though North Melbourne won every quarter for the first time this season - they have still lost twice as many as they have won. (24-48-4).

Sydney are the only team which have not drawn a quarter.

Despite their poor season the Hawks have the 4th highest attendance total.

Carlton require just 7251 more to reach the million attendance milestone.

Essendon require 61,877 more – however it is unlikely that this number will cram into the Docklands on Sunday to see St Kilda equal Essendon's 20 game record winning streak to start a season.
2009 QUARTERS LADDER TO ROUND 19
 

Win-Lost-Drawn

   Quarter Perc 4-Qtr Results
  Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Tot QR Pts Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Tot Won Lost
1 St Kilda (1) 16-3-0 13-6-0 13-6-0 11-7-1 53-22-1 70.4% 214 159.3 171.1 175.7 150.7 163.8 6 -
2 Geelong (2) 14-5-0 11-7-1 12-7-0 9-9-1 46-28-2 61.8% 188 175.7 139.6 116.4 102.5 129.8 3 1
3 Brisbane (5) 10-9-0 12-6-1 12-6-1 10-9-0 44-30-2 59.2% 180 92.1 105.5 138.6 99.0 107.6 2 1
4 Collingwood (3) 9-10-0 11-8-0 13-6-0 11-7-1 44-31-1 58.6% 178 106.1 110.4 131.3 126.6 118.3 1 2
5 Carlton (6) 9-9-1 11-8-0 10-9-0 13-6-0 43-32-1 57.2% 174 104.2 113.3 106.2 116.9 110.3 3 1
6 Western Bulldogs (4) 8-10-1 10-9-0 10-9-0 12-5-2 40-33-3 54.6% 166 100.2 123.0 126.6 144.3 122.7 1 1
7 Adelaide (7) 9-10-0 10-8-1 9-10-0 11-7-1 39-35-2 52.6% 160 130.6 124.3 78.1 116.7 109.0 1 1
8 Essendon (9) 9-10-0 6-12-1 13-5-1 10-9-0 38-36-2 51.3% 156 81.9 80.4 128.4 112.2 99.3 2 -
9 Hawthorn (11) 11-8-0 9-9-1 8-11-0 7-10-2 35-38-3 48.0% 146 90.8 99.8 97.1 79.4 91.4 1 1
10 Sydney (10) 8-11-0 9-10-0 10-9-0 9-10-0 36-40-0 47.4% 144 101.7 89.0 96.9 93.0 95.1 - 2
11 Port Adelaide (8) 8-11-0 9-10-0 7-12-0 10-7-2 34-40-2 46.1% 140 83.2 89.7 80.9 111.8 90.7 1 3
12 West Coast (12) 9-10-0 9-9-1 8-11-0 7-10-2 33-40-3 45.4% 138 91.3 93.9 85.0 90.6 89.9 1 1
13 Fremantle (15) 11-8-0 6-13-0 9-10-0 3-13-3 29-44-3 40.1% 122 102.9 69.7 86.4 53.6 76.3 - 2
14 Richmond (14) 8-10-1 5-13-1 6-13-0 8-11-0 27-47-2 36.8% 112 93.7 74.3 76.0 77.8 79.8 - 1
15 Melbourne (16) 6-12-1 7-12-0 5-14-0 9-10-0 27-48-1 36.2% 110 67.9 74.1 59.9 92.4 72.5 - 2
16 North Melbourne (13) 4-13-2 10-8-1 6-13-0 4-14-1 24-48-4 34.2% 104 74.0 98.8 87.0 71.7 82.8 1 4
    149-149-3 148-148-4 151-151-1 144-144-8 592-592-16   23 23
2009 HOME LADDER AFTER ROUND 19
  P W L D For Agst Perc Pts MR
1 ST KILDA 10 10 - - 1016 585 173.675 40 100.00
2 GEELONG 10 10 - - 1135 789 143.853 40 100.00
3 PORT ADELAIDE 9 8 1 - 952 765 124.444 32 88.89
4 BRISBANE 9 7 2 - 939 702 133.761 28 77.78
5 SYDNEY 9 6 3 - 881 791 111.378 24 66.67
6 WESTERN BULLDOGS 10 6 4 - 1061 824 128.762 24 60.00
7 ADELAIDE 10 6 4 - 934 749 124.700 24 60.00
8 CARLTON 9 5 4 - 888 786 112.977 20 55.56
9 West Coast 9 5 4 - 820 759 108.037 20 55.56
10 Collingwood 9 5 4 - 852 790 107.848 20 55.56
11 Hawthorn 9 5 4 - 741 782 94.757 20 55.56
12 Essendon 10 5 4 1 1022 936 109.188 22 55.00
13 North Melbourne 11 4 7 - 925 1071 86.368 16 36.36
14 Fremantle 10 3 7 - 881 974 90.452 12 30.00
15 Melbourne 9 2 7 - 671 829 80.941 8 22.22
16 Richmond 9 1 7 1 734 1016 72.244 6 16.67
    152 88 62 2 14452 13148 109.918 356 58.55
2009 AWAY LADDER AFTER ROUND 18
  P W L D For Agst Perc Pts MR
1 ST KILDA 9 9 - - 900 585 153.846 36 100.00
2 COLLINGWOOD 10 8 2 - 997 773 128.978 32 80.00
3 WESTERN BULLDOGS 9 6 3 - 1005 860 116.860 24 66.67
4 GEELONG 9 6 3 - 895 775 115.484 24 66.67
5 CARLTON 10 6 4 - 1004 930 107.957 24 60.00
6 ADELAIDE 9 5 4 - 778 821 94.762 20 55.56
7 BRISBANE 10 4 5 1 787 902 87.251 18 45.00
8 RICHMOND 10 4 6 - 843 960 87.813 16 40.00
9 Essendon 9 3 6 - 745 843 88.375 12 33.33
10 Hawthorn 10 3 7 - 920 1035 88.889 12 30.00
11 Fremantle 9 2 7 - 607 977 62.129 8 22.22
12 Sydney 10 2 8 - 607 977 62.129 8 22.22
13 North Melbourne 8 1 6 1 548 708 77.401 6 18.75
14 West Coast 10 1 9 - 790 1031 76.625 4 10.00
15 Port Adelaide 10 1 9 - 812 1180 68.814 4 10.00
16 Melbourne 10 1 9 - 745 1125 66.222 4 10.00
    152 62 88 2 13148 14452 90.977 252 41.45

ATTENDANCE LADDER 2009*
  Club Total Gms Average HOME Gms Average Rank AWAY Gms Average Rank
1 Collingwood 1,023,278 18 53,856.74 484,494 9 53,832.7 1 538,784 10 53,878.4 2
2 Carlton 992,749 19 52,249.95 446,388 9 49,598.7 3 546,361 10 54,636.1 1
3 Essendon 938,123 19 49,374.89 512,737 10 51,273.7 2 425,386 9 47,265.1 3
4 Hawthorn 747,701 19 39,352.68 326,120 9 36,235.6 7 421.581 10 42.158.1 5
5 Richmond 730,955 19 38,471.32 376,673 9 41,852.6 4 354,282 10 35,428.2 7
6 Geelong 720,225 19 37,906.58 312,116 10 31,211.6 11 408,109 9 45,345.4 4
7 St Kilda 658,529 19 34,659.42 342,875 10 34,287.5 8 315,654 9 35,072.7 8
8 Western Bulldogs 652,017 19 34,316.68 314,829 10 31,482.9 10 337,188 9 37,465.3 6
9 Adelaide 646,501 19 34,026.37 387,166 10 38,716.6 5 259,335 9 28,815.0 12
10 West Coast 610,686 19 32,141.37 327,925 9 36,436.1 6 282,761 10 28,276.1 13
11 Fremantle 567,395 19 29,862.89 332,176 10 33,217.6 9 235,219 9 26,135.4 15
12 Sydney 556,333 19 29,280.68 267,358 9 29,706.4 12 288,975 10 28,897.5 11
13 Brisbane 554,518 19 29,185.16 261,038 9 29,004.2 13 293,480 10 29,348.0 9
14 Melbourne 545,787 19 28,725.63 253,516 9 28,168.4 14 292,271 10 29.227.1 10
15 North Melbourne 514,645 19 27,086.58 306,987 11 27,907.9 15 207,658 8 25,957.3 16
16 Port Adelaide 492,022 19 25,895.89 223,334 9 24,814.9 16 268,688 10 26,868.8 14
*Includes Audited and adjusted attendances to Round 19
  Ground Total Gms Average    
1 MCG 1,946,468 39 49,909.44    
2 Docklands 1,454,300 40 36,357.50    
3 Homebush 107,237 3 35,745.67    
4 Subiaco 660,101 19 34,742.16    
5 Football Park 610,500 19 32,131.58    
6 BCG (Gabba) 261,038 9 29,004.22    
7 SCG 160,121 6 26,686.83    
8 Kardinia Park 144,619 7 20,659.86    
9 York Park 69,609 4 17,402.25    
10 Marrara 11,306 1 11,306.00    
11 Carrara 30,580 3 10,193.33    
12 Manuka 19,853 2 9,926.50    
  TOTAL 5,475,732 152 36,024.55    
Form table ...

Here is the form table to Round 19, 2009.

    This
wk		 Last
wk		 Diff Last 5
wks		 Chg T8 B8 Hm Aw For-Ag To Play
1. ST KILDA(1) 168.63 175.02 (6.38) 56.13 - 9-0 10-0 10-0 9-0 +746 12.67
(1)
2. COLLINGWOOD(3) 125.03 109.37 15.66 47.22 +2 6-4 7-2 5-4 8-2 +286 9.33
(7)
3. ADELAIDE(7) 99.97 110.90 (10.93) 79.21 - 3-8 8-0 6-4 5-4 +142 9.67
(=5)
4. WEST.B'DOGS(4) 95.096 123.44 (27.48) (35.63) -2 2-5 10-2 6-4 6-3 +382 3.33
(=15)
5. BRISBANE(5) 63.84 59.12 4.73 40.96 +1 2-7 9-0-1 7-2 4-5-1 +122 7.33
(=12)
6. GEELONG(2) 53.59 84.73 (31.14) (94.90) -1 6-3 10-0 10-0 6-3 +466 9.67
(=5)
7. CARLTON(6) 29.70 (5.60) 35.30 39.54 +1 5-3 6-5 5-4 6-4 +176 10.33
(3)
8. ESSENDON(9) (5.08) 4.67 (9.75) (29.03) -1 3-7-1 5-3 5-4-1 3-6 -12 9.00
(=8)
9. Sydney(10) (18.02) (47.00) 28.98 (1.72) +1 2-8 6-3 6-3 2-8 -85 3.33
(=15)
10. West Coast(12) (35.09) (57.46) 22.37 30.98 +1 3-7 3-6 5-4 1-9 -180 11.33
(2)
11. Hawthorn(11) (36.84) (43.15) 6.31 60.64 -2 2-8 6-3 5-4 3-7 -156 10.00
(4)
12. North Melbourne(13) (73.69) (106.54) 32.86 27.61 +2 1-9 4-4-1 4-7 1-6-1 -306 7.00
(14)
13. Port Adelaide(8) (100.34) (78.58) (21.76) (53.02) - 2-5 7-5 8-1 1-9 -181 8.00
(11)
14. Richmond(14) (102.62) (73.30) (29.32) (34.77) -2 0-9 5-4-1 1-7-1 4-6 -399 8.67
(10)
15. Fremantle(15) (116.93) (140.30) 23.37 (58.05) +1 2-10 3-4 3-7 2-7 -463 9.00
(=8)
16. Melbourne(16) (148.12) (115.32) (32.80) (75.17) -1 1-9 2-7 2-7 1-9 -538 7.33
(=12)

Legend: T8 - record against the teams currently in the top eight; B8 - Record against the teams currently in the bottom eight.; Hm - Record as the 'home' team; Aw - Record as the 'Away' team; For-Ag - Points For minus Points Against; To Play - The average positions of the teams they still have to play (ranking)

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22 ROUND LADDER
Round 20, 2008 to Round 19, 2009
    P W L D For Agst Perc Pts
1 ST KILDA 22 22 - - 332 278 2270 190 185 1325 171.321 88
2 GEELONG 22 19 3 - 357 300 2442 269 191 1805 123.291 76
3 COLLINGWOOD 22 15 7 - 310 269 2129 257 249 1791 118.872 60
4 WESTERN BULLDOGS 22 13 9 - 348 275 2363 286 239 1955 120.870 52
5 ADELAIDE 22 13 9 - 284 260 1964 262 233 1805 108.809 52
6 BRISBANE 22 12 9 1 290 238 1978 275 262 1912 103.452 50
7 CARLTON 22 12 10 - 319 264 2178 311 259 2125 102.494 48
8 PORT ADELAIDE 22 11 11 - 309 262 2116 321 248 2174 97.332 44
9 Hawthorn 22 10 12 - 295 259 2029 300 265 2065 98.257 40
10 Sydney 22 9 13 - 284 230 1934 297 260 2042 94.711 36
11 Essendon 22 8 13 1 288 256 1984 322 274 2206 89.937 34
12 Richmond 22 8 13 1 276 252 1908 320 271 2191 87.084 34
13 North Melbourne 22 6 15 1 259 214 1768 313 254 2132 82.927 26
14 West Coast 22 6 16 - 255 252 1782 317 264 2166 82.271 24
15 Fremantle 22 6 16 - 252 223 1735 326 268 2224 78.013 24
16 Melbourne 22 4 18 - 231 201 1587 323 311 2249 70.565 16
    174 174 2 4689 4033 32167 4689 4033 32167    

 

30 MATCH LADDER
The last results of each home and away pairing to Round 19, 2009
 Rank
2007		  Rank
2008		 Rank
2009		     Overall Home Away  
  P W-L-D For Agst Perc W-L-D For Agst Perc W-L-D For Agst Perc Pts
3 4 1 ST KILDA 30 27-3-0 451.367-3073 307.276-2118 145.09 13-2-0 223.175-1513 151.129-1035 146.18 14-1-0 228.192-1560 156.147-1083 144.04 108
2 1 2 GEELONG 30 24-6-0 478.412-3280 373.286-2524 129.95 14-1-0 261.214-1780 165.139-1129 157.66 10-5-0 217.198-1500 208.147-1395 107.53 96
10 3 3 WEST. B'DOGS 30 21-9-0 500.372-3372 399.318-2712 124.34 11-4-0 247.195-1677 186.161-1277 131.32 10-5-0 253.177-1695 213.157-1435 118.12 84
4 8 4 COLLINGWOOD 30 20-10-0 449.365-3059 367.337-2539 120.48 9-6-0 233.188-1586 189.151-1285 123.42 11-4-0 216.177-1473 178.186-1254 117.46 80
5 7 5 ADELAIDE 30 19-11-0 404.367-2791 347.314-2400 116.29 11-4-0 214.201-1485 152.142-1054 140.89 8-7-0 190.166-1306 195.176-1346 97.03 76
8 2 6 HAWTHORN 30 16-14-0 423.350-2888 411.354-2820 102.41 10-5-0 209.163-1417 183.186-1284 110.36 6-9-0 214.187-1471 228.168-1536 95.77 64
16 12 7 CARLTON 30 16-14-0 431.378-2964 423.370-2908 101.93 7-8-0 218.203-1511 223.177-1515 99.74 9-6-0 213.175-1453 200.193-1393 104.31 64
12 10 8 BRISBANE 30 14-15-1 394.343-2707 390.366-2706 100.04 10-5-0 230.191-1571 184.184-1288 121.97 4-10-1 164.152-1136 206.192-1418 80.11 58
7 5 9 Sydney 30 13-16-1 386.319-2635 400.343-2743 96.06 9-6-0 214.173-1457 192.182-1334 109.22 4-10-1 172.146-1178 208.161-1409 83.61 54
9 9 10 Port Adelaide 30 12-18-0 415.350-2840 457.368-3110 91.32 8-7-0 208.196-1444 204.174-1398 103.29 4-11-0 207.154-1396 253.194-1712 81.54 48
6 6 11 North Melb 30 11.17-2 354.329-2453 409.353-2807 87.39 5-9-1 181.160-1246 211.179-1445 86.23 6-8-1 173.169-1207 198.174-1362 88.62 48
13 14 12 Essendon 30 11-18-1 384.336-2640 447.390-3072 85.94 7-7-1 219.148-1462 226.185-1541 94.87 4-11-0 165.188-1178 221.205-1531 76.94 46
15 11 13 Richmond 30 9-20-1 382.326-2618 456.386-3122 83.86 3-11-1 189.164-1298 249.182-1676 77.45 6-9-0 193.162-1320 207.204-1446 91.29 38
1 15 14 West Coast 30 9-21-0 362.344-2516 440.346-2986 84.26 8-7-0 196.181-1357 187.116-1286 105.77 1-14-0 166.163-1159 253.185-1703 68.06 36
11 13 15 Fremantle 30 8-22-0 358.338-2486 442.356-3008 82.65 6-9-0 196.179-1355 201.166-1372 98.76 2-13-0 162.159-1131 241.190-1636 69.13 32
14 16 16 Melbourne 30 7-23-0 340.289-2329 443.418-3076 75.72 5-10-0 173.156-1194 197.200-1382 86.40 2-13-0 167.133-1135 246.218-1694 67.00 28
    239-239-1 6715.5768-46058 6789.5925-46659 100.00 131-108-1 3431.2996-23582 3284.2772-22476 1044.92 108-131-1 3284.2772-22476 3431.2996-23582 95.31  
*Fixtures* not paired for 3 seasons or more:
Sun 10/08/2003 R19-MCG
Sat 17/04/2004 R4-FP
Sat 24/04/2004 R5-PP
Sat 24/07/2004 R17-S
Sat 26/03/2005 R1-MCG
Sat 04/06/2005 R11-S
Sun 12/06/2005 R12-Dok
Sat 02/07/2005 R14-Dok
Sun 21/08/2005 R21-SCG
Sat 01/04/2006 R1-Dok
Sun 02/04/2006 R1-YP
Sat 08/04/2006 R2-BCG
Thu 13/04/2006 R3-Dok
Sat 15/04/2006 R3-KP
Sat 22/04/2006 R4-BCG
Sun 14/05/2006 R7-FP
Sat 08/07/2006 R14-Dok
Sun 13/08/2006 R19-MCG
Sun 13/08/2006 R19-Dok		 Kangaroos 15.8-98 v Fremantle 15.9-99 by 1 pt
Adelaide 15.8-98 v St Kilda 18.5-113 by 15 pts 
Carlton 14.8-92 v West Coast 6.7-43 by 49 pts 
Fremantle 18.10-118 v Sydney 14.7-91 by 27 pts 
Melbourne 15.13-103 v Essendon 8.9-57 by 46 pts 
Fremantle 10.7-67 v Brisbane 15.16-106 by 39 pts 
Kangaroos 17.7-109 v Richmond 10.20-80 by 29 pts 
Essendon 13.8-86 v Kangaroos 19.14-128 by 42 pts 
Sydney 15.11-101 v Kangaroos 9.10-64 by 37 pts 
Essendon 17.6-108 v Sydney 12.9-81 by 27 pts 
Hawthorn 17.7-109 v Fremantle 13.9-87 by 22 pts 
Brisbane 17.13-115 v Essendon 15.7-97 by 18 pts 
St Kilda 19.10-124 v Brisbane 12.15-87 by 37 pts 
Geelong 6.13-49 v Hawthorn 15.11-101 by 52 pts 
Brisbane 11.16-82 v Richmond 14.12-96 by 14 pts 
Port Adelaide 13.12-90 v Western Bulldogs 25.16-166 by 76 pts 
Carlton 11.11-77 v Geelong 23.4-142 by 65 pts 
Hawthorn 17.11-113 v Carlton 13.12-90 by 23 pts 
Geelong 11.14-80 v St Kilda 15.13-103 by 23 pts		 North Melbourne 14.14-98 v Fremantle 12.13-85 by 13pts - 2009-R9-Dok
Adelaide 10.9-69 v St Kilda 15.11-101 by 32 pts - 2009-R2-FP
Carlton 16.15-111 v West Coast 10.10-70 by 41 pts - 2009-R10-Dok
Fremantle 18.13-121 v Sydney 16.14-100 by 21 pts - 2009-R5-S
Melbourne v Essendon - not fixtured in 2009
Fremantle 7.5-47 v Brisbane 9.8-62 by 15 pts - 2009-R16-S(n)
North Melbourne 7.16-58 v Richmond 13.16-94 by 36 pts - 2009-R5-Dok
Essendon v North Melbourne - not fixtured in 2009
Sydney 15.10-100 v North Melbourne 13.7-85 by 15 pts - 2009-R14-SCG
Essendon v Sydney - not fuxtured in 2009
Hawthorn v Fremantle - not fixtured in 2009
Brisbane 17.9-111 v Essendon 9.14-68 by 43 pts - 2009-R6-BCG
St Kilda 14.13-97 v Brisbane 13.3-81 by 16 pts - 2009-R9-Dok
Geelong 15.9-99 v Hawthorn 14.14-98 by 1 pt  - 2009-R17-MCG
Brisbane v Richmond - not fixtured in 2009
Port Adelaide v Western Bulldogs - not fixtured in 2009
Carlton 14.13-97 v Geelong 8.14-62 by 35 pts - 2009-R19-MCG(n)
Hawthorn 16.10-106 v Carlton 15.12-102 by 4 pts - 2009-R6-MCG
Geelong v St Kilda - not fixtured in 2009

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Wednesday, August 5, 2009

 Martin Windsor-Black
The Full Picture update after Round 18
MWB has run his keen eye across the wider results from the matches of the 18th round.

Adelaide have won their last 7 final quarters at Football Park. The 2 point loss against Geelong was their first single digit result since Round 1.

Brisbane have won their last 8 quarters at the Gabba – and have lost just one of their last 13 at the same ground – against Melbourne in Round 13. Of their last 7 matches 5 have resulted in margins in the forties ... 42, 48, 43, 41 and 40 points.

Carlton have won all 6 final quarters at the Docklands this season

Collingwood require just 21,850 to attend at Football Park in Adelaide to break through the 1 million attendance mark in Round 19.

Such is ninth! Essendon is ranked ninth on the home ladder, ninth on the away ladder and ninth on the actual ladder.

Fremantle have won their last 5 opening quarters at Subiaco since they were beaten by Hawthorn in Round 8. They have not won a final quarter away from Subiaco this season

After winning 14 consecutive quarters at Kardinia Park (R2-R13) Geelong have lost 2 quarters in each of their last 3 matches there – including the final quarters

Hawthorn have won just 2 of 9 matches against teams currently in the top eight – including both matches against Port Adelaide. Geelong and Port Adelaide are the only two teams to have beaten Hawthorn twice this season.

Melbourne face their best chance of climbing off the bottom with matches against North Melbourne and Fremantle in the next two rounds.

North Melbourne have not won an opening quarter since Round 11 – against St Kilda
North Melbourne is the only club to have conceded 1000 points in their home matches.

Based solely on ladder position, Port Adelaide have the best run home behind the Saints.
Port have lost just two games this season at Football Park – against St Kilda and as the away side against Adelaide.
Port have won just 1 of their 8 games outside Adelaide – against Hawthorn
Port's last 6 matches have results of LWLWLW.

Richmond have lost their last 8 third quarters, and have won 2 and drawn 1 of their last 3 games – it is quite possible that they could also win 3 of their last 4 matches – so much for tanking!

St Kilda have lost just 3 opening quarters this season – against Sydney (R1), North Melbourne (R11) and Richmond (R14) – all outside the eight. After winning all 4 quarters in 5 of their first 10 matches, they have not repeated the feat in the 8 matches since.

Sydney have come closest to the Saints than any other club this season - and have lost both games by a combined margin of just 16 points.

Against the top eight sides, the Bulldogs have won just 2 of 7 games and are likely to finish 3rd on the strength of winning 10 of their 11 games against teams in the bottom eight – only loss was against West Coast in Round 4 at Subiaco – the same team they face this weekend. They face a very tough run home with matches against Brisbane, Geelong and Collingwood to round out their home and away season

Against Essendon, West Coast won their first opening quarter since Round 9 against Collingwood. Their last opening quarter win away from home was against Hawthorn in Round 5 at York Park.

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2009 QUARTERS LADDER TO ROUND 18
 

Win-Lost-Drawn

   Quarter Perc 4-Qtr Results
  Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Tot QR Pts Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Tot Won Lost
1 St Kilda (1) 15-3-0 12-6-0 12-6-0 10-7-1 49-22-1 68.8% 198 160.7 169.6 177.9 150.9 164.3 5 -
2 Geelong (2) 14-4-0 11-6-1 11-7-0 9-8-1 45-25-2 63.9% 184 184.6 143.8 116.8 108.5 134.2 3 1
3 Brisbane (6) 10-8-0 11-6-1 12-5-1 9-9-0 42-28-2 59.7% 172 93.1 104.0 147.6 95.3 108.0 2 1
4 Collingwood (4) 8-10-0 11-7-0 12-6-0 10-7-1 41-30-1 57.6% 166 106.1 111.8 130.6 124.0 117.7 1 2
5 Carlton (7) 8-9-1 10-8-0 10-8-0 12-6-0 40-31-1 56.3% 162 102.6 112.5 107.1 111.4 108.5 3 1
6 Western Bulldogs (3) 8-9-1 10-8-0 9-9-0 12-5-1 39-31-1 55.6% 160 103.1 128.0 123.5 146.9 124.5 1 1
7 Adelaide (5) 9-9-0 9-8-1 9-9-0 11-6-1 38-32-2 54.2% 156 132.7 123.6 78.7 122.1 111.0 1 1
8 Essendon (9) 8-10-0 6-11-1 12-5-1 10-8-0 36-34-2 51.4% 148 79.6 81.0 125.6 117.3 99.3 2 -
9 Hawthorn (10) 11-7-0 9-8-1 8-10-0 7-9-2 35-34-3 50.7% 146 92.3 101.9 97.9 79.6 92.5 1 -
10 Port Adelaide (8) 8-10-0 9-9-0 7-11-0 9-7-2 33-37-2 47.2% 136 88.4 92.3 82.8 108.0 92.4 1 3
11 Sydney (11) 7-11-0 8-10-0 9-9-0 9-9-0 33-39-0 45.8% 132 99.5 84.0 88.9 94.9 91.6 - 2
12 West Coast (13) 8-10-0 8-9-1 8-10-0 7-10-1 31-39-2 44.4% 128 88.2 90.9 87.4 90.1 89.1 1 1
13 Melbourne (16) 6-11-1 7-11-0 5-13-0 9-9-0 27-44-1 38.2% 110 67.0 76.6 59.8 97.6 74.0 - 1
14 Fremantle (15) 10-8-0 5-13-0 8-10-0 3-12-3 26-43-3 38.2% 110 95.5 66.0 82.6 54.1 73.1 - 2
15 Richmond (12) 8-9-1 5-12-1 6-12-0 7-11-0 26-44-2 37.5% 108 95.5 76.5 80.9 75.3 81.4 - 1
16 North Melbourne (14) 3-13-2 9-8-1 5-13-0 3-14-1 20-48-4 30.6% 88 71.8 94.5 82.2 78.6 78.6 - 4
    141-141-3 140-140-4 143-143-1 137-137-7 561-561-15   21 21
2009 HOME LADDER AFTER ROUND 18
  P W L D For Agst Perc Pts MR
1 ST KILDA 10 10 - - 1016 585 173.675 40 100.00
2 GEELONG 10 10 - - 1135 789 143.853 40 100.00
3 PORT ADELAIDE 9 8 1 - 952 765 124.444 32 88.89
4 BRISBANE 9 7 2 - 939 702 133.761 28 77.78
5 WESTERN BULLDOGS 9 6 3 - 964 722 133.518 24 66.67
6 ADELAIDE 9 6 3 - 866 660 131.212 24 66.67
7 SYDNEY 9 6 3 - 881 791 111.378 24 66.67
8 HAWTHORN 8 5 3 - 692 708 97.740 20 62.50
9 Essendon 9 5 4 - 935 849 110.130 20 55.56
10 West Coast 9 5 4 - 820 759 108.037 20 55.56
11 Collingwood 9 5 4 - 852 790 107.848 20 55.56
12 Carlton 8 4 4 - 791 724 109.254 16 50.00
13 North Melbourne 10 3 7 - 802 1010 79.406 12 30.00
14 Fremantle 9 2 7 - 765 900 85.000 8 22.22
15 Melbourne 9 2 7 - 671 829 80.941 8 22.22
16 Richmond 8 1 6 1 666 893 74.580 6 18.75
    144 85 58 1 13747 12476 110.188 342 59.38
2009 AWAY LADDER AFTER ROUND 18
  P W L D For Agst Perc Pts MR
1 ST KILDA 8 8 - - 826 536 154.104 32 100.00
2 COLLINGWOOD 9 7 2 - 908 705 128.794 28 77.78
3 GEELONG 8 6 2 - 833 678 122.861 24 75.00
4 WESTERN BULLDOGS 9 6 3 - 1005 860 116.860 24 66.67
5 CARLTON 10 6 4 - 1004 930 107.957 24 60.00
6 ADELAIDE 9 5 4 - 778 821 94.762 20 55.56
7 BRISBANE 9 4 5 - 700 815 85.890 16 44.44
8 RICHMOND 10 4 6 - 843 960 87.813 16 40.00
9 Essendon 9 3 6 - 745 843 88.375 12 33.33
10 Hawthorn 10 3 7 - 920 1035 88.889 12 30.00
11 Fremantle 9 2 7 - 607 977 62.129 8 22.22
12 North Melbourne 8 1 6 1 548 708 77.401 6 18.75
13 Sydney 9 1 8 - 649 879 73.834 4 11.11
14 Port Adelaide 9 1 8 - 738 1064 69.361 4 11.11
15 Melbourne 9 1 8 - 684 1002 68.263 4 11.11
16 West Coast 9 - 9 - 688 934 73.662 0 0.00
    144 58 85 1 12476 13747 90.754 234 40.63

ATTENDANCE LADDER 2009*
  Club Total Gms Average HOME Gms Average Rank AWAY Gms Average Rank
1 Collingwood 978,150 18 54.341.67 484,494 9 53,832.7 1 493.656 9 54,850.7 1
2 Carlton 937,692 18 52,094.00 391,331 8 48,916.4 3 546,361 10 54,636.1 2
3 Essendon 896,487 18 49,804.83 471,101 9 52,344.6 2 425,386 9 47,265.1 3
4 Hawthorn 727,690 18 40,427.22 306,109 8 38,263.6 5 421.581 10 42.158.1 5
5 Richmond 698,739 18 38,818.83 344,457 8 43,057.1 4 354,282 10 35,428.2 8
6 Geelong 665,168 18 36,953.78 312,116 10 31,211.6 11 353,052 8 44,131.5 4
7 St Kilda 638,518 18 35,473.22 342,875 10 34,287.5 8 295,643 8 36,955.4 7
8 Western Bulldogs 629,600 18 34,977.78 292,412 9 32,490.2 10 337,188 9 37,465.3 6
9 Adelaide 601,373 18 33,409.61 342,038 9 38,004.2 6 259,335 9 28,815.0 11
10 West Coast 588,269 18 32,681.61 327,925 9 36,436.1 7 260,344 9 28,927.1 10
11 Fremantle 537,366 18 29,853.67 302,147 9 33,571.9 9 235,219 9 26,135.4 15
12 Melbourne 529,193 18 29,399.61 253,516 9 28,168.4 15 275,677 9 30,630.8 9
13 Sydney 524,117 18 29,117.61 267,358 9 29,706.4 12 256,759 9 28,528.8 12
14 Brisbane 512,882 18 28,493.44 261,038 9 29,004.2 14 251,844 9 27,982.7 13
15 North Melbourne 498,051 18 27,669.50 290,393 10 29,039.3 13 207,658 8 25,957.3 16
16 Port Adelaide 461,993 18 25,666.28 223,334 9 24,814.9 16 238,659 9 26,517.7 14
*Includes Published attendances  for Round 18
  Ground Total Gms Average    
1 MCG 1,817,559 36 50,487.75    
2 Docklands 1,415,289 38 37,244.45    
3 Homebush 107,237 3 35,745.67    
4 Subiaco 630,072 18 35,004.00    
5 Football Park 565,372 18 31,409.56    
6 BCG (Gabba) 261,038 9 29,004.22    
7 SCG 160,121 6 26,686.83    
8 Kardinia Park 144,619 7 20,659.86    
9 York Park 49,598 3 16,532.67    
10 Marrara 11,306 1 11,306.00    
11 Carrara 30,580 3 10,193.33    
12 Manuka 19,853 2 9,926.50    
  TOTAL 5,212,644 144 36,198.92    
Form table ...

Here is the form table to Round 18, 2009.

    This
wk		 Last
wk		 Diff Last 5
wks		 Chg T8 B8 Hm Aw For-Ag To Play
1. ST KILDA(1) 175.02 191.07 (16.05) 48.00 - 9-0 9-0 10-0 8-0 +721 12.25
(1)
2. WEST.B'DOGS(3) 123.44 135.13 (11.70) 47.73 - 2-5 10-1 6-3 6-3 +387 6.25
(15)
3. ADELAIDE(5) 110.90 95.13 15.77 103.80 +1 3-7 8-0 6-3 5-4 +163 8.50
(=8)
4. COLLINGWOOD(4) 109.37 94.73 14.65 49.66 +1 5-4 7-2 5-4 7-2 +265 7.75
(=11)
5. GEELONG(2) 84.73 101.05 (16.32) (58.68) -2 6-2 10-0 10-0 6-2 +501 9.00
(6)
6. BRISBANE(6) 59.12 84.14 (25.02) 9.11 - 2-7 9-0 7-2 4-5 +122 7.75
(=11)
7. ESSENDON(9) 4.67 17.43 (12.76) (42.98) - 3-7 5-3 5-4 3-6 -12 8.00
(10)
8. CARLTON(7) (5.60) 2.53 (8.13) 3.09 - 4-3 6-5 4-4 6-4 +141 7.75
(=11)
9. Hawthorn(10) (43.15) (45.53) 2.38 11.57 - 2-7 6-3 5-3 3-7 -131 6.75
(14)
10. Sydney(11) (47.00) (63.35) 16.35 (45.96) - 2-8 5-3 6-3 1-8 -140 6.00
(16)
11. West Coast(13) (57.46) (72.78) 15.33 (8.59) - 2-7 3-6 5-4 0-9 -185 8.50
(=8)
12. Richmond(12) (73.30) (74.31) 1.01 7.17 - 0-9 5-3-1 1-6-1 4-6 -344 9.50
(=3)
13. Port Adelaide(8) (78.58) (85.67) 7.10 (1.59) - 2-5 7-4 8-1 1-8 -139 10.50
(2)
14. North Melbourne(14) (106.54) (110.88) 4.34 (16.83) - 1-9 3-4-1 3-7 1-6-1 -368 9.50
(=3)
15. Melbourne(16) (115.32) (117.85) 2.53 (17.99) - 1-9 2-6 2-7 1-8 -476 9.25
(5)
16. Fremantle(15) (140.30) (150.83) 10.53 (87.50) - 1-10 3-4 2-7 2-7 -505 8.75
(7)

Legend: T8 - record against the teams currently in the top eight; B8 - Record against the teams currently in the bottom eight.; Hm - Record as the 'home' team; Aw - Record as the 'Away' team; For-Ag - Points For minus Points Against; To Play - The average positions of the teams they still have to play (ranking)

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Wednesday, August 4, 2009

 Martin Windsor-Black
Same round – 1, 2, 4 point margins
It struck MWB as unusual, and a search of his database proved he was right.

Across the 13,536 League matches since 1897 there are only three occasions that matches have finished with 1, 2 and 4 point margins in the same round —

1960-R13-AP — SM 10.20-80 v Gee 11.13-79 by 1pt
1960-R13-MCG — Mel 6.13-49 v StK 6.9-45 by 4pts
1960-R13-WO — Fsc 9.10-64 v NM 9.8-62 by 2pts
1960-R13-VP — Col 7.15-57 v Haw 7.16-58 by 1pt

2005-R2-MCG(n) — Car 16.14-110 v Ess 17.4-106 by 4pts
2005-R2-FP(n) — PA 11.9-75 v Bri 11.7-73 by 2pts
2005-R2-YPL — StK 8.11-59 v Fre 8.10-58 by 1pt

2009-R18-KP — Gee 14.9-93 v Ade 13.13-91 by 2pts
2009-R18-SCG(n) — Syd 13.15-93 v StK 13.16-94 by 1pt
2009-R18-MCG — Mel 12.10-82 v Rch 12.14-86 by 4pts

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Friday, July 31, 2009

 Martin Windsor-Black
Sydney – are they St Kilda's achilles heel?
The undefeated Saints face a Swans team on the decline and out of the finals for the first time since Paul Roos took over the reins.
 
For the Saints to remain undefeated they will have to overcome history.  Here are some examples where the Swans ended a Saints winning streak – and run into the finals .

In 1907, St Kilda won the first 6 games of the season.

In Round 7 they played South Melbourne at the Junction oval and lost 4.8-32 to 7.2-44  before falling away –

2007-R6 Ladder    Final ladder
StK 6 24 163.8   Car 17 52 155.7
Car 6 16 139.0   SM  17 44 118.4
SM  6 16 110.4   StK 17 36 117.5 – lost 1SF, Carlton 13.13 to 4.11
Ess 6  8  92.9   Col 17 36 110.4
Col 6  8  85.6   Fit 17 28  85.5
Fit 6  8  85.2   Gee 17 28  85.3
Mel 6  8  78.7   Mel 17 28  81.1
Gee 6  8  73.9   Ess 17 20  74.0
Interesting how both these ladders are also in percentage order.
 
 
In 1959 St Kilda won 4 in a row from Round 3 to Round 7. They were 4th and two games ahead of South Melbourne in 7th.
In Round 8 at the Lake Oval South Melbourne 16.13-109 won 7.11-53 –
The were still 4th in Round 13 with 8 wins and their percentage was exactly 100.0.  They lost 4 of the last 5 games to finish 8th.

Rd 7 Ladder      Final ladder
Car 7 28 139.0  Mel 18 54 142.7
NM  7 24 115.2  Car 18 52 109.3
Mel 7 20 139.1  Col 18 48 121.6
StK 7 20 107.4  Ess 18 44 112.4
Haw 7 16 120.3  Fit 18 42 113.5
Ess 7 16 110.9  NM  18 40  89.3
SM  7 12  90.0  Haw 18 36 112.7
Fit 7  8  95.2  StK 18 36  94.3
Col 7  8  90.5  SM  18 32 103.4
Gee 7  8  78.6  Gee 18 20  78.5
Rch 7  4  75.1  Rch 18 16  73.9
Fsc 7  4  70.5  Fsc 18 12  73.3
 
In 1978 St Kilda won 3 on the trot from Round 5
At the Lake Oval in Round 8, South Melbourne won 20.16-136 to 4.13-37.  It started a losing streak of 6 matches including the 107 point thrashing by Footscray at the Western Oval in Round 13. That losing streak cost the Saints a place in the finals by half a game.
Rd 7 Ladder  Rd  Final Ladder
NM  7 28 133.5  NM  22 64 120.9
StK 7 22 112.7  Haw 22 64 117.7
Haw 7 20 128.4  Col 22 60 113.3
SM  7 16  99.4  Car 22 56 116.8
Ess 7 16  97.9  Gee 22 48 102.3
Col 7 12 116.7  StK 22 46  93.1 - missed the finals by half a game
Gee 7 12  99.3  Rch 22 42 102.9
Mel 7 12  80.0  SM  22 36 100.3
Rch 7 10 100.0  Fit 22 32  96.5
Fit 7  8  93.3  Ess 22 32  94.3
Car 7  8  85.7  Fsc 22 28  90.6
Fsc 7  4  75.3  Mel 22 20  69.1
 
In 1999 St Kilda won 5 matches from Round 6 to 10 including a 10 point win at Kardinia Park before Sydney defeated them at Waverley in Round 11, 15.12-102 to 10.13-73 (Barry Hall kicked 2 for St Kilda and Tony Lockett kicked 3 for Sydney)
the Saints fell from 3rd to finish 10th – one game behind Sydney who finished 8th and in the finals.
Rd 10 Ladder     Final Ladder
WCE 10 32 135.4  Ess 22 72 126.0
Ess 10 28 119.6  Kan 22 68 115.7
StK 10 28 114.7  Bri 22 64 144.9
Kan 10 28 114.4  WB  22 62 118.6
Bri 10 24 132.0  WCE 22 48 106.8
WB  10 24 115.5  Car 22 48 103.0
Car 10 24  96.0  PA  22 48  90.1
Gee 10 20  99.7  Syd 22 44 102.6
Syd 10 20  93.5  Haw 22 42  95.6
Rch 10 16  94.2  StK 22 40  97.9
PA  10 16  90.1  Gee 22 40  94.9
Ade 10 16  88.0  Rch 22 36  91.1
Haw 10 16  87.2  Ade 22 32  85.3
Mel 10 16  84.1  Mel 22 24  80.7
Fre 10  8  85.0  Fre 22 20  82.4
Col 10  4  77.6  Col 22 16  84.8
 
 
Most recently, in 2004 St Kilda won the first 10 matches of the season, culminating in a 108 point win over arch-enemy Carlton 31.10-196 to 13.10-88. They visited the SCG in Round 11 and lost to Sydney 11.10-76 to 17.10-112.  After topping the ladder ahead of Melbourne by 3 games, the Saints were reeled in by Brisbane, Port Adelaide and Melbourne by Round 17 before finishing 3rd behind Port Adelaide.
 Rd 10 Ladder  Rd 22 Ladder
StK 10 40 165.5  PA  22 68 132.4
Mel 10 28 123.0  Bri 22 64 137.2
Bri 10 28 121.9  StK 22 64 128.0
PA  10 28 116.4  Gee 22 60 119.9
Ess 10 28 103.9  Mel 22 56 111.9
Fre 10 24 111.5  Syd 22 52 107.4
Syd 10 20 106.0  WCE 22 52 103.8
Gee 10 20 103.8  Ess 22 48 102.4
Kan 10 16  99.5  Fre 22 44 100.6
WCE 10 16  86.8  Kan 22 40 100.3
Rch 10 16  73.8  Car 22 40  81.7
Ade 10 12  97.4  Ade 22 32  95.6
WB  10 12  89.1  Col 22 32  91.2
Col 10 12  79.7  WB  22 20  79.6
Car 10 12  77.2  Haw 22 16  70.2
Haw 10  8  75.1  Rch 22 16  69.2
 
Since Round 7, 2007 wins have alternated between the two with victories going to the 'home' team.
 
In the last 16 meetings only two *away* teams have won (in 2005-1PF and 2006-R11)

2000-R16-SCG(n) – Syd 14.9-93 v StK 10.5-65  by 28pts
2001-R6-Dok – StK 18.12-120 v Syd 14.10-94  by 26pts
2001-R21-SCG – Syd 21.16-142 v StK 8.7-55  by 87pts
2002-R5-Dok(n)–StK 8.8-56 v Syd 8.8-56  drawn
2002-R20-SCG–Syd 12.15-87 v StK 12.8-80  by 7pts
2003-R15-SCG(n) – Syd 15.22-112 v StK 9.7-61  by 51pts
2004-R11-SCG – Syd 17.10-112 v StK 11.10-76  by 36pts
2004-2SF-MCG(n) – StK 16.11-107 v Syd 8.8-56  by 51pts
2005-R10-Dok(n) – StK 15.11-101 v Syd 8.10-58  by 43pts
2005-1PF-MCG(n) – StK 9.11-65 v Syd 15.6-96  by 31pts
2006-R11-SCG(n) – Syd 7.8-50 v StK 7.10-52  by 2pts
2007-R7-Dok(n) – StK 15.7-97 v Syd 11.5-71  by 26pts
2007-R19-Hom(n) – Syd 12.10-82 v StK 9.11-65  by 17pts
2008-R1-Dok(n) – StK 6.15-51 v Syd 6.13-49  by 2pts
2008-R12-SCG – Syd 14.18-102 v StK 9.13-67  by 35pts
2009-R1-Dok(n) – StK 12.8-80 v Syd 9.11-65  by 15pts
 
Sydney have won 8 of the last 9 against St Kilda in NSW.
1998-2QF-SCG(n) – Syd 12.17-89 v StK 13.9-87  by 2pts
2000-R16-SCG(n) – Syd 14.9-93 v StK 10.5-65  by 28pts
2001-R21-SCG – Syd 21.16-142 v StK 8.7-55  by 87pts
2002-R20-SCG – Syd 12.15-87 v StK 12.8-80  by 7pts
2003-R15-SCG(n) – Syd 15.22-112 v StK 9.7-61  by 51pts
2004-R11-SCG – Syd 17.10-112 v StK 11.10-76  by 36pts
2006-R11-SCG(n) – Syd 7.8-50 v StK 7.10-52  by 2pts
2007-R19-Hom(n) – Syd 12.10-82 v StK 9.11-65  by 17pts
2008-R12-SCG – Syd 14.18-102 v StK 9.13-67  by 35pts
 
It's also worth noting that the Saints won their last 9 matches of 1997 before losing in the Grand Final to Adelaide.

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Saturday, July 25, 2009

 Martin Windsor-Black
A goal in mind ... Carlton's goal a quarter versus Collingwood
One could be excused for thinking that the Blues went out each quarter with a goal in mind in the R17 match against Collingwood at the MCG – they succeeded.
 
This is the 40th time that a club have scored exactly one goal in each and every quarter. 
 
The last time was two years ago against West Coast at Subiaco, and no prizes for guessing the team – Carlton!  The goalscorers on that day were Brendan Fevola, Brad Fisher, Matthew Lappin and Heath Scotland – all with singles.  
 
The only time before that by Carlton was also against Collingwood, in 1911 at Victoria Park when they recorded almost identical scoreline ...
1911-R17-VP  - Car 1.5, 2.10, 3.12, 4.17
2007-R4-S    - Car 1.2, 2.6,  3.11, 4.15
2009-R19-MCG - Car 1.5, 2.9,  3.13, 4.16
 
The team kicking one goal in each quarter has won 5 times - the most recent was by Collingwood in Round 14, 1951 at Kardinia Park when they rolled the Cats by 2 points – the same margin Richmond beat Geelong in a similar match in 1909
 
The result of the game in 1901 is rather interesting – Collingwood had a "goal" in mind and Melbourne made "point" of it.
 
Here is the full list —
 1    1897-R11-EM Ess 9.8-62 v Fit 4.6-30  by 32pts         Fit 1.2, 2.2, 3.4, 4.6
 2    1898-R6-CO Gee 4.7-31 v Ess 3.6-24  by 7pts           Gee 1.2, 2.2, 3.5, 4.7
 3    1899-R5-JO StK 4.9-33 v SM 10.10-70  by 37pts         StK 1.3, 2.8, 3.8, 4.9
 4    1899-R9-BS Fit 9.8-62 v SM 4.5-29  by 33pts           SM 1.1, 2.1, 3.3, 4.5
 5    1900-R8-AP SM 4.14-38 v Ess 1.4-10  by 28pts          SM 1.7, 2.11, 3.11, 4.14
 6    1900-R3-EM Ess 4.9-33 v Fit 3.9-27  by 6pts           Ess 1.2, 2.3, 3.5, 4.9
 7    1901-R11-MCG Mel 5.6-36 v Col 4.11-35  by 1pt         Col 1.4, 2.8, 3.10, 4.11
 8    1903-R7-VP Col 4.9-33 v Ess 2.13-25  by 8pts          Col 1.6, 2.7, 3.8, 4.9
 9    1904-R3-PP Car 8.17-65 v Gee 4.8-32  by 33pts         Gee 1.2, 2.7, 3.7, 4.8
10    1904-R9-EM Ess 9.12-66 v Gee 4.4-28  by 38pts         Gee 1.0, 2.2, 3.3, 4.4
11    1907-2SF-MCG Car 13.13-91 v StK 4.11-35  by 56pts     StK 1.0, 2.2, 3.8, 4.11
12    1908-R3-AP SM 4.2-26 v StK 7.13-55  by 29pts          SM 1.0, 2.1, 3.2, 4.2
13    1908-R8-CO Gee 4.11-35 v Uni 5.9-39  by 4pts          Gee 1.3, 2.8, 3.10, 4.11
14    1909-R9-PR Rch 4.15-39 v Gee 5.7-37  by 2pts          Rch 1.1, 2.6, 3.12, 4.15
15    1909-R10-AP SM 17.9-111 v Gee 4.7-31  by 80pts        Gee 1.1, 2.4, 3.7, 4.7
16    1911-R5-AP SM 4.10-34 v Col 5.10-40  by 6pts          SM 1.3, 2.5, 3.6, 4.10
17    1911-R17-VP Col 8.8-56 v Car 4.17-41  by 15pts        Car 1.5, 2.10, 3.12, 4.17
18    1913-R4-MCG Mel 4.7-31 v Fit 7.11-53  by 22pts        Mel 1.1, 2.3, 3.6, 4.7
19    1917-R15-PP Car 12.8-80 v Rch 4.17-41  by 39pts       Rch 1.2, 2.5, 3.11, 4.17
20    1918-R1-PR Rch 5.16-46 v Ess 4.10-34  by 12pts        Ess 1.1, 2.4, 3.6, 4.10
21    1923-R5-WH Ess 4.13-37 v Fit 8.12-60  by 23pts        Ess 1.3, 2.5, 3.9, 4.13
22    1923-R8-AP SM 12.13-85 v Rch 4.10-34  by 51pts        Rch 1.2, 2.5, 3.8, 4.10
23    1924-R11-BS Fit 4.17-41 v SM 9.10-64  by 23pts        Fit 1.7, 2.7, 3.13, 4.17
24    1924-F-MCG Ess 10.12-72 v SM 4.15-39  by 33pts        SM 1.3, 2.4, 3.9, 4.15
25    1925-R13-CO Gee 11.20-86 v Rch 4.8-32  by 54pts       Rch 1.0, 2.3, 3.4, 4.8
26    1928-R2-MCG Mel 6.11-47 v Gee 4.16-40  by 7pts        Gee 1.7, 2.11, 3.16, 4.16
27    1937-R10-CO Gee 18.16-124 v NM 4.14-38  by 86pts      NM 1.6, 2.6, 3.10, 4.14
28    1950-R3-WO Fsc 13.24-102 v Haw 4.9-33  by 69pts       Haw 1.2, 2.3, 3.5, 4.9
29    1951-R14-KP Gee 3.11-29 v Col 4.7-31  by 2pts         Col 1.3, 2.4, 3.4, 4.7
30    1951-R15-WO Fsc 4.6-30 v Fit 8.9-57  by 27pts         Fsc 1.0, 2.3, 3.5, 4.6
31    1953-R18-AP SM 13.20-98 v StK 4.12-36  by 62pts       StK 1.2, 2.6, 3.7, 4.12
32    1954-R6-WO Fsc 12.8-80 v Ess 4.7-31  by 49pts         Ess 1.1, 2.3, 3.4, 4.7
33    1958-2SF-MCG Mel 11.12-78 v Col 4.9-33  by 45pts      Col 1.0, 2.4, 3.8, 4.9
34    1966-R9-WH Ess 9.17-71 v Fsc 4.13-37  by 34pts        Fsc 1.5, 2.5, 3.9, 4.13
35    1968-R4-KP Gee 6.10-46 v Col 4.13-37  by 9pts         Col 1.2, 2.6, 3.9, 4.13
36    1974-R15-PP Haw 16.14-110 v SM 4.7-31  by 79pts       SM 1.3, 2.6, 3.7, 4.7
37    1980-R15-P Haw 4.13-37 v Gee 17.15-117  by 80pts      Haw 1.5, 2.7, 3.8, 4.13
38    1988-R9-P NM 4.11-35 v Col 11.17-83  by 48pts         NM 1.4, 2.6, 3.9, 4.11
39    2007-R4-S WCE 14.16-100 v Car 4.15-39  by 61pts       Car 1.2, 2.6, 3.11, 4.15
40    2009-R19-MCG(n) Car 4.16-40 v Col 14.10-94  by 54pts  Car 1.5, 2.9, 3.13, 4.16

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Friday, July 24, 2009

 Martin Windsor-Black
The Full Picture update after Round 16
Ladder Prognostications
This presentation embraces the normal ladders which result after each round plus the first of the Ladder Prognostications of the season –

48 matches – 281.4 trillion win/loss outcomes and 79.7 sextillion possibilities.

With their opponents having an average ladder position of 6.67, Hawthorn have the worst run-home of all sides.

St Kilda and Geelong are the only sides who have qualified for the finals, mathematically.

If the Saints winning streak extends against the Bulldogs, then they will secure a top 2 position. Even if the Bulldogs defeat the Saints, they could still fall as low as 11th.

The top 6 teams (StK, Gee, WB, Col, Bri and Ade) can finish top.

9 teams can finish on the bottom. That will reduce if Essendon, Port Adelaide or Hawthorn can secure victories.

The reigning premier, Hawthorn, can still finish as high as second, and can reach the top 4 in as soon as 3 weeks.

Every team still has a mathematical chance of reaching the finals. Losses to Richmond, Melbourne or Fremantle will snuff out that chance.

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2009 QUARTERS LADDER TO ROUND 16
 

Win-Lost-Drawn

   Quarter Perc 4-Qtr Results
  Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Tot QR Pts Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Tot Won Lost
1 St Kilda (1) 13-3-0 11-5-0 11-5-0 9-6-1 44-19-1 69.5% 178 161.8 182.8 180.3 156.5 169.8 5 -
2 Geelong (2) 12-4-0 10-5-1 11-5-0 8-7-1 41-21-2 65.6% 168 197.0 150.1 125.7 104.8 139.0 3 1
3 Carlton (7) 8-8-0 10-6-0 8-8-0 11-5-0 37-27-0 57.8% 148 109.9 117.8 103.2 118.9 112.5 3 1
4 Brisbane (5) 8-8-0 9-6-1 11-4-1 11-4-0 36-26-1 57.8% 148 86.3 102.0 162.2 99.7 109.0 1 1
5 Western Bulldogs (3) 7-8-1 9-7-0 8-8-0 12-4-0 36-27-1 57.0% 146 101.6 132.7 123.8 165.4 128.7 1 1
6 Collingwood (4) 7-9-0 10-6-0 11-5-0 8-7-1 36-27-1 57.0% 146 102.8 113.1 122.2 111.4 112.2 1 2
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