AFL Footystats Diary, April 17, 2008 – The News Hoover
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HEADLINES: AFL tells Melbourne to 'face up to the crisis' ... Leigh Matthews: 'I still live with the guilt' ... Hall wrist surgery – 8 to 10 weeks ... Tribunal: Barry Hall suspended for seven matches ... MWB's *Full Picture* after Round 4 ...

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2 Sat, April 19 KP, 2.10 Geelong v Sydney
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4 Sat, April 19 BCG(n), 7.10 Brisbane v Hawthorn
5 Sat, April 19 MCG(n), 7.10 Collingwood v North Melb
6 Sun, April 20 MCG, 1.10 Melbourne v Carlton
7 Sun, April 20 Dok, 2.10 West.B'dogs v Richmond
8 Sun, April 20 Sub, 4.40 West Coast v Port Adelaide

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Thursday, April 17

Full and frank assessment
AFL tells Melbourne to 'face up to the crisis'


The AFL has delivered a stunning broadside to the Melbourne Football Club, informing the Demons' board that its brand was meaningless and that it virtually stood for nothing in 2008, the club's 150th season.

Caroline Wilson in The Age reveals in a full and frank assessment of the club's dire predicament delivered by the competition's governing body three days ago, Melbourne was told it had to face up to its financial crisis and dreadful public image if it had any chance of digging itself out of its black hole.

Not only has Melbourne's debt blown out dramatically in recent months but the club's projected profit has dropped by $1 million thanks to its current perilous state.

The view of Monday's meeting – quarterly talks with AFL financial and commercial heavyweights including Ian Anderson and Andrew Caterall and the Melbourne board – was that the club needed to admit its crisis in a bid for long-term survival ... more – Dees told 'face up to the crisis' ...

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Looking ahead to Round 5
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Venue performances for all matches ... more

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l Leigh Matthews: "I still live with the guilt"
l Hall wrist surgery will take 8 to 10 weeks to heal
l AFL sees no reason for send-off rule
Brisbane coach Leigh Matthews yesterday predicted Barry Hall's toughest sentence would be a lifetime of anguish over what he did to Brent Staker last Saturday night.

Jenny McAsey notes in The Australian, more than anyone else in football, Matthews should know. In 1985, Matthews, then a Hawthorn champion, king hit Geelong rover Neville Bruns and broke his jaw.

"I tell you what, Brent Staker's jaw will feel better in a week. Barry Hall's heart will be heavy for the rest of his life," said Matthews, a four-time AFL premiership coach.

"I still live with the guilt."

Surgery on Hall's right wrist on Monday afternoon revealed a mess – his scaphoid bone was both fractured and dislocated from the force of his collision with ANZ Stadium's steel-bar fence and the injury will take at least eight to 10 weeks to heal.

Club doctor Nathan Gibbs said screws and pins had been inserted in Hall's wrist. "It is a bad injury and the powers-that-be at the Swans, the AFL and ANZ Stadium will need to look at changing things there," Gibbs said.
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Jon Ralph in the Herald Sun highlights the AFL yesterday endorsed the seven-match penalty handed to Sydney star Barry Hall, and dismissed calls for a send-off rule. AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said the lengthy ban given to Hall by the AFL Tribunal on Tuesday night over his punch to Eagle Brent Staker was "appropriate".

But while AFL rules committee member Kevin Bartlett and West Australian legend Ron Alexander have demanded the AFL introduce a rule that sees players red-carded, Demetriou disagrees.

He said the AFL's match review and tribunal process had delivered a fitting outcome on the Hall case.

l Tasmanian AFL bid certain to be snubbed
The AFL appears certain to snub Tasmania from its major expansion by reiterating its priorities lie in the north, despite the island state's call for its licence submission to be judged on its merits.

Fox Sports reports Tasmanian Premier Paul Lennon on Wednesday formally launched his state's bid for its own side meeting with AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou and asking to be granted either the 17th or 18th team licence within the next four years.

Lennon said Tasmania had the history and support – both emotional and financial – to warrant its own AFL side and that the state's population of about 500,000 and love of Australian football put it on equal footing with the AFL's desired areas of expansion.

The Tasmanian government plans to present a detailed submission – including potential support base for the side, financial backing, game attendances and junior growth areas – to the AFL this year to try to persuade the league.

But Demetriou made it clear the AFL was still eyeing off Australia's major growth areas of south-east Queensland and western Sydney as the regions best-placed to grow the game and issue licences in 2011-12.
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Stephen Rielly noted in The Australian: It requires between $25-30million a year to operate an AFL club, with some turning over in excess of $40m a year. At the moment, Tasmania gets its fix of AFL through a five-year, $15m agreement with Hawthorn that sees the Hawks play five games a season in Launceston.

"You ignore your home base at your peril," said (Tasmanian Premier Paul) Lennon, who argued that the league will never be able to genuinely claim its competition to be national without Tasmania being involved.

Hall of Fame tribute match
Squads named for May 10 event
The AFL on Tuesday named squads for the Hall of Fame Tribute Match between Victoria and the "Dream Team" to be played on Saturday, May 10 at the MCG.

Victoria:
Jonathan Brown (Brisbane, captain), Gary Ablett (Geelong), Jimmy Bartel (Geelong), Daniel Bradshaw (Brisbane), Campbell Brown (Hawthorn), Paul Chapman (Geelong), Travis Cloke (Collingwood), Nick Dal Santo (St Kilda), Brendan Fevola (Carlton), Dustin Fletcher (Essendon), Nathan Foley (Richmond), Josh Fraser (Collingwood), Adam Goodes (Sydney), Jason Gram (St Kilda), Brent Harvey (North Melbourne), David Hille (Essendon), Luke Hodge (Hawthorn), Brad Johnson (Western Bulldogs), Kane Johnson (Richmond), Steve Johnson (Geelong), Chris Judd (Carlton, James Kelly (Geelong), Nigel Lappin (Brisbane), Cameron Ling (Geelong), Matthew Lloyd (Essendon), Darren Milburn (Geelong), Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn), Leigh Montagna (St Kilda), Ryan O'Keefe (Sydney), Luke Power (Brisbane), Matthew Scarlett (Geelong), Heath Shaw (Collingwood), Adam Simpson (North Melbourne), Brent Stanton (Essendon), Dane Swan (Collingwood), Dale Thomas (Collingwood), Jeff White (Melbourne), Dale Morris (Western Bulldogs), Robert Murphy (Western Bulldogs), David Wirrpanda (West Coast).

Dream Team:
Andrew McLeod (Adelaide, captain), Chance Bateman (Hawthorn), Simon Black (Brisbane), Nathan Bock (Adelaide), Craig Bolton (Sydney) Peter Burgoyne (Port Adelaide), Shaun Burgoyne (Port Adelaide), Brett Burton (Adelaide), Jamie Charman (Brisbane) Adam Cooney (Western Bulldogs), Joel Corey (Geelong), Chad Cornes (Port Adelaide) Kane Cornes (Port Adelaide), Dean Cox (West Coast), Alwyn Davey (Essendon), Leon Davis (Collingwood) Alan Didak (Collingwood), Tyson Edwards (Adelaide) Corey Enright (Geelong) Lance Franklin (Hawthorn), Darren Glass (West Coast) Simon Goodwin (Adelaide) Ryan Griffen (Western Bulldogs), Tom Harley (Geelong), Lenny Hayes (St Kilda), Adam Hunter (West Coast), Graham Johncock (Adelaide), Tadhg Kennelly (Sydney), Daniel Kerr (West Coast), Brett Kirk (Sydney), Justin Koschitzke (St Kilda), Matthew Leuenberger (Brisbane Lions), Tarkyn Lockyer (Collingwood), Luke McPharlin (Fremantle), Cameron Mooney (Geelong), Matthew Pavlich (Fremantle), Matthew Richardson (Richmond), Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda), Ben Rutten (Adelaide), Matthew Stokes (Geelong).

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They said it ...
Players propose 17-round season
The AFL Players Association will propose a 17-round season from 2012 describing the launch of an 18-team competition as a "magnificent opportunity" to revolutionise and refashion the competition.

AFLPA boss Brendon Gale said it would be wrong to push footballers to take a pay cut on the basis of a shorter season given the significant benefits to the game.

A 17-week competition would ensure every team played each other once, ending the anomaly that has existed since the competition expanded from 12 teams in the 1980s. AFL chairman Mike Fitzpatrick also promoted the opportunity to equalise the home-and-away season when he revealed the AFL's radical expansion plans to The Age in February.

Gale said his association would present the proposal to its players and the AFL when the two parties met on May 1.

Under the AFLPA plan the competition would potentially include a longer pre-season, at least one, and possibly two, mid-season breaks allowing for regular state-of-origin or exhibition games.

Gale said a shortened season with breaks would also allow overseas games and ensure better quality football and reduce the appearance of "tanking".

The players proposal could also include a final 10 and allow for one extra week of finals in a bid to appease AFL broadcasters with a two-week break between the preliminary and grand finals that, in turn, would see all players available for the Brownlow Medal count.

The AFL said last week that it was working on various changes to the competition on the basis of its expansion, but favoured a 22 or 24-week season.

CAROLINE WILSON, The Age, April 16, 2008

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What you say – Kathryn Michaelsen ...
Is footy heartless and homeless?
A passionate opinion is always reflected each time Kathryn Michaelsen e-mails Footystats – this is no exception ...

Hi Kevin,

What is a home game, and what is it worth, or is there a point for some home games? ... more

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Stab Kicks ...
n On Tuesday we carried the thoughts of Peter Coatman – what's the record for the longest sequence of matches to include only one loss? The longest I know of is Essendon's 33 games in 1949-51, which included 16 wins in a row, followed by a loss, followed by another 16 wins in a row, but I'm not certain if that's the all-time record.

Bruce Kennedy writes – I’m sure Peter Coatman is correct. The next best I could come up with was Essendon’s 1999-2000 effort of 28 on the trot, broken only by that dreadful defeat to Carlton in the 1999 Preliminary Final. My check has not been exhaustive, but I did top and tail all the major winning runs.

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COL HUTCHINSON's
Approaching Milestones
2008, Round 5,
Friday-Saturday-Sunday, April 18-19-20

(subject to selection, injury or suspension)
PREMIERSHIP MATCHES
250 – SCOTT BURNS (Collingwood 1995-2008)
200 – BRENDON LADE (Port Adelaide 1997-2008)
200 – LUKE POWER (Brisbane 1998-2008)
150 – DEAN COX (West Coast 2001-08)
150 – DARREN GLASS (West Coast 2000-08)
150 – KEN McGREGOR (Adelaide) 1999-2008
100 – GRAHAM POLAK (26 Rch 2007-08, 73 Fre 2002-06)
  50 – DANIEL BELL (Melbourne 2004-08)
  50 – KEPLER BRADLEY (0 Fre, 49 Ess 2004-07)
  50 – DAMON WHITE (Port Adelaide 2004-07)
  50 – TROY SELWOOD (Brisbane 2005-08)
CAREER MATCHES
200 – BEN HOLLAND (64 Mel 2004-07; 125 Rch 1996-2003)
    189 premiership games, 10 pre-season
200 – MATTHEW PAVLICH (Fremantle 2000-08)
    179 premiership games, 17 pre-season, 3 International
200 – DEAN SOLOMON (Fre 2007-08, Ess 1998-2006)
    180 premiership games, 16 pre-season, 1 State, 2 International
MATCHES WITH CURRENT CLUB
  50 – NATHAN  THOMPSON (North Melb 2005-08; also 119 Haw 1998-2004)
LEAGUE MATCHES
400 – Adelaide has played 399 premiership matches (1991-2008)
GOALKICKING
250 – ANDREW McLEOD (Adelaide 1995-2007) 249 goals, 287 games
250 – STEWART DEW (Haw 2008, PA 1997-2006) 247 goals, 182 games
250 – PETER BELL (Fre 95, 2001-08, NMK 1996-2000) 247 goals, 277 games
GOALS WITH CURRENT CLUB
400 – ANTHONY ROCCA (Col 1997-2008) 396 goals, 212 games
100 – NATHAN G BROWN (Richmond 2004-08) 99 goals, 55 games
UMPIRES
250 – SHANE McINERNEY (1994-2008)
  50 – CRAIG HENDRIE has officiated in 49 League matches (2003-08)

Worth noting ...
n NAB Cup 2008 Match Review and details – more
n Tribunal 2008 – more
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Traded, Retired, Delisted, Acquired – more
n 2007 financial forecasts and results – more
n Footystats Classifieds – more


Wednesday, April 16

AFL Tribunal
Barry Hall suspended for seven matches
Mooney and Dodd escape with reprimands


Sydney full-forward Barry Hall has been suspended by the AFL Tribunal on Tuesday for seven matches for striking West Coast's Brent Staker.

He pleaded guilty to striking Staker but said the incident was the result of a mind snap.

ABC News Online reported Hall's punch was described by the AFL's tribunal counsel Jeff Gleeson as one which would make Rocky Balboa blush.

Hall told the tribunal he intended to strike Staker, but he did not intend to put him out of the game.

Sydney argued that the incident was a serious example of a serious offence, but not a worst-case scenario.

The tribunal heard evidence from West Coast club medical officer Gerrard Taylor who says Staker has concussion, suffers headaches and is only a 50-50 chance to play on Sunday.

The tribunal jury was instructed to give a 25 per cent reduction of the penalty due to the guilty plea.

Hall says the ban is fair and he has again apologised to Staker for the blow. He also apologised to the AFL and Swans fans during the hearing.

In other cases, Geelong's Cameron Mooney has had a tripping charge downgraded and is free to play against the Swans on Saturday.

Fremantle's Steven Dodd also escaped with a reprimand, after successfully arguing that his contact with Richmond's Jack Riewoldt was reckless, not intentional.
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The Age noted that Hall's punishment took him to a career total of 23 matches in suspensions, one more than Carlton enforcer David Rhys-Jones and Robert "Mad Dog" Muir in the AFL's gallery of rogues.

The jury handed Hall 790 demerit points, which meant the seven games plus effectively another match hanging over his head for the next year in carry-over points should he re-offend.

It was the first time since 2002 that Hall had received a suspension.
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Charges and verdicts from Round 4 –

ESSENDON v WEST.B'DOGS
Sam Lonergan (Ess) and Brad Johnson (WB) were cited for making negligent contact with umpires in Q3. The MRP offered both players fines of $1950 each with an early plea. Both Lonergan and Johnson accepted guilt and the fines imposed.

ST KILDA v GEELONG
l Cameron Mooney (Gee) was cited by the MRP for tripping Leigh Montagna (StK) in Q3. The incident was judged as intentional, of low impact and to the body, which drew five activation points. An early plea would reduce that to 140.63, but it would not be enough to beat a suspension. Geelong sought the adjudication of the Tribunal. On Tuesday night the Tribunal downgraded its guilty verdict to a reprimand.
l Ryan Gamble (Gee) was cited for striking Nick Dal Santo (StK) in Q2. The incident was judged as intentional, low impact and high contact. Gamble was offered a one match suspension with an early plea. The player accepted guilt and the MRP judgement.

NORTH MELB v MELBOURNE
Brad Miller (Mel) was cited for rough conduct against Daniel Pratt (NM). Even with an early plea a one-match suspension from his prior record was inevitable. Miller accepted guilt and the MRP judgement of suspension for one match.

SYDNEY v WEST COAST
Barry Hall (Syd) was cited for striking Brent Staker (WCE) in the first quarter. The MRP viewed the incident as intentional, high contact, causing severe impact. The matter was referred to the AFL Tribunal. Hall pleaded guilty at the Tribunal on Tuesday night where the player was suspended for seven matches. Hall also carries 790 demerit points, effectively another match for the next year in carry-over points should he re-offend.

CARLTON v COLLINGWOOD
Nick Maxwell (Col) was cited for intentionally striking Marc Murphy (Car) in Q1. The incident drew a three-match suspension, reduced to two by the 25 per cent good behaviour discount and ending as one game with an early plea. The player accepted guilt and the MRP suspension of one match.

FREMANTLE v RICHMOND
Stephen Dodd (Fre) was cited for tripping Jack Riewoldt (Rch). The MRP offered Dodd a one-match suspension with an early plea. Fremantle sought the adjudication of the Tribunal. On Tuesday night the Tribunal downgraded its guilty verdict to a reprimand.

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They said it ...
Tasmania stakes claim to field own AFL team
Tasmania will officially bid for one of the two new AFL licences, with Premier Paul Lennon holding talks in Melbourne today with AFL boss Andrew Demetriou.

Caroline Wilson reveals in a bid that has the cautious support of Hawthorn, the Lennon Government will take its first official stand on the issue, believing that the national competition has shunned the traditional football state by focusing its attention on developing markets in the west of Sydney and the Gold Coast.

Lennon, who brandished his No. 1 Tasmanian Devils ticket at the VFL club's first home game last Saturday and vowed to present a petition to the AFL, has taken his intention one step further and will play an active role in competing with Sydney's west for the 18th licence, or welcoming a relocated Victorian club.

The Age, April 15, 2008

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AFL 2005 grand final terror plot
A home-grown terror group planned to attack the MCG during the 2005 AFL Grand Final between the Sydney Swans and West Coast Eagles, a court in Melbourne heard on Tuesday.

Katie Brice reported in the Herald Sun: When ASIO and police raids forced the plotters to shelve the MCG plan, they switched targets to the 2006 NAB Cup or Crown casino during Grand Prix weekend, the Supreme Court was told.

The allegations were made by Izzydeen Atik, a former associate of 12 men on trial in Australia's largest terrorism case.

Mr Atik said the group's alleged leader, Abdul Nacer Benbrika – also known as Abu Bakr -- named the targets.

"Abu Bakr told me of the targets that he intends to attack," Mr Atik said.

"The AFL Grand Final was the original target and because of the raids and because of security reasons and funding they were to be off until the following year."

ASIO raided the group just two months before Sydney beat the Eagles by four points in front of 91,898 fans.

Under cross-examination from defence lawyer Remy van de Wiel, QC, Mr Atik admitted he had suffered from schizophrenia but was now free of anti-psychotic medication.

On trial are: Mr Benbrika, 48, of Dallas; Abdullah Merhi, 22, of Fawkner; Shane Kent, 31, of Meadow Heights; Majed Raad, 23, of Coburg; Aimen Joud, 23, of Hoppers Crossing; Ahmed Raad, 24, of Fawkner; Fadl Sayadi, 28, of Coburg; Ezzit Raad, 26, of Preston; Hany Taha, 33, of Hadfield; Shoue Hammoud, 28, of Hadfield; Bassam Raad, 26, of Brunswick and Amer Haddara, 28, of Yarraville.

The trial before Justice Bernard Bongiorno continues.

Martin Windsor-Black
The Full Picture update after Round 4
l The definitive compilation of statistics –
 
Martin Windsor-Black
THE FULL PICTURE ... more
after Round 4
n Quarters Ladder
n *Home* and *Away* Ladders
n Attendance Ladder

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Martin Windsor-Black
l North struggling to finish off matches
When Melbourne won their first quarter after a club record 17 consecutive quarter losses (which started against Carlton in Round 22 last year), they have highlighted the fact that North Melbourne are struggling to finish off matches.

North Melbourne have won just 1 of their last 7 final quarters - in which they have scored just 18.19 and conceded 41.19 - losing all four this year.
2007-1QF-MCG – Gee 7.2-48 v Kan 2.1-13
2007-1SF-MCG(n) – Kan 5.2-32 v Haw 2.4-16
2007-2PF-FP PA – 13.3-81 v Kan 1.6-12
2008-R1-Dok – NM 2.4-16 v Ess 4.3-27
2008-R2-MCG – Rch 3.1-19 v NM 2.2-14
2008-R3-Dok – NM 1.0-6 v Haw 6.3-39 (lost the game after leading at 3-qtr time)
2008-R4-MCG – NM 5.4-34 v Mel 6.3-39
Total NM 18.19-127 v 41.19-265
Total 2008: NM 10-70 v 19.10-124

This is in contrast to North's opening quarters for the season in which they have kicked 19.21-135 and conceded only 7.4-46 and winning all four.
2008-R1-Dok – NM 4.3-27 v Ess 2.0-12
2008-R2-MCG – Rch 3.1-19 v NM 7.4-32
2008-R3-Dok – NM 4.6-30 v Haw 1.3-9
2008-R4-MCG – NM 4.8-32 v Mel 1.0-6

Melbourne's poor start to the season has impacted their crowd numbers and they have the lowest attendance for the year so far with just 114,959 from 4 matches. So where are their supporters?

Despite the Blues initial poor start to the season, the fans are flocking with a average crowd of over 64,550 - mainly due to their blockbusters against Richmond (72,552), Essendon (64,388) and Collingwood (77,873).

However the AFL would be happy with the season average crowd attendances exceeding 40,500 fans per game

In addition to the 3 undefeated teams (Hawthorn, Geelong and Bulldogs), Sydney, Adelaide and Collingwood have not lost a home game whilst Richmond and North Melbourne have not lost an away game.

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l NAB Rising Star
Round 4 – Kieren Jack (Sydney)
Sydney midfielder Kieren Jack has been named AFL's Rising Star nominee from round four.

Playing just his sixth AFL match, Jack, who is often given tagging roles, held his experienced opponent Daniel Kerr to only 15 possessions. Before the weekend, Kerr had averaged 28 possessions in 2008.

Jack, who was rookie-drafted to the Swans in December 2005 and promoted to the primary list last year, also made nine tackles. He is the son of rugby league great Garry Jack.

His nomination from Saturday night's match at Stadium Australia comes less than a week after Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse fired a broadside at the AFL's rising star selections, claiming young defenders were often overlooked for high-possession winners.

Sydney coach Paul Roos said Jack's performance was outstanding.

"We rate Daniel Kerr as one of the top half-dozen players in the competition and it is a testament to Kieren's season that we gave him the job on him on Saturday night," Roos said.

"He did an outstanding job not only curbing Daniel on the night but giving us plenty of drive, a well deserved nomination."

He is the first Rising Star nomination earned by the Swans since Paul Bevan in 2004-Round 4.

u Full details and history of the AFL-NAB Rising Star award ... more

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Tiger great Jack O'Rourke passes
Richmond's leading goalkicker from 1951 and 1952, Jack O'Rourke, passed away at Warrnambool last Friday, aged 79.

From St Ignatius, The Encyclopedia of AFL Footballers noted his spectacular play created a sensation and only injury stopped him from greater fame.

He played 44 games between 1949-53 and represented Victoria in 1951.

O'Rourke returned to play in the Hampden League where he remained a prolific goalkicker and was a well-known publican at South Warrnambool.

He was the son of Jack O'Rourke snr who played 63 VFL matches with St Kilda (1920-24) and Fitzroy (1925-27).

Stab Kicks ...
n Correction to correction – The crowd for the Port-Brisbane match last Saturday night was 25,205, not *24,205* as recorded somewhere – total for the round remains as 315,414 ...

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Tuesday, April 15

MRP refers Hall judgement to Tribunal
The Match Review Panel has referred the striking charge against Sydney's Barry Hall against West Coast's Brent Staker to the AFL Tribunal.

Fox Sports reports: Hall's left hook to the head of the West Coast defender on Saturday night at Stadium Australia was ruled as intentional, high contact, causing severe impact. That grading lifted it above the number of activation points which equates to a set penalty.

It means Hall can not gain a 25 per cent reduction for an early guilty plea, although the tribunal can still take an admission of guilt into account.

Staker underwent scans but the Eagles were yet to determine the full extent of his injury and he has not been ruled out of playing in Sunday's match against Port Adelaide.

Meanwhile, Hall had surgery on his right wrist, which he broke when he ran into advertising hoardings late in Saturday night's match at Homebush.

The injury would normally be expected to sideline him for up to six weeks, but that timeframe will probably be irrelevant, given his looming suspension is likely to be at least that long.

Hall's actions also disappointed Sydney, as co-captain Leo Barry said it would take the forward some time to earn back respect from his teammates.

The AFL expected the hearing to take place on Wednesday night, although it is open for Sydney to apply for a postponement if they do not believe Hall has recovered sufficiently from his operation to make the trip to Melbourne.

It would be up to the tribunal chairman to decide whether to grant that application.

The last player to be referred directly to the tribunal was St Kilda's Steven Baker, who was charged after an AFL investigation for rough conduct on Fremantle's Jeff Farmer in round 20 last season.

Baker was handed a seven-match ban, although it would only have been four games if not for a heavy penalty loading for prior offences.

l Several other charges from Round 4
In other charges from Round 4, Geelong's Cameron Mooney has earned a one-game suspension for tripping. A guilty plea will not save Mooney from being suspended from this weekend's game against Sydney after he stuck his leg out and tripped St Kilda's Leigh Montagna at Docklands. The MRP viewed Mooney's offence as intentional, of low impact and to the body, which drew five activation points. An early plea would reduce that to 140.63, but it would not be enough to beat a suspension.

Mooney's teammate Ryan Gamble also faces a week on the sidelines, after he was hit with a one-game ban for striking St Kilda's Nick Dal Santo in an incident judged as intentional, low impact and high contact. Gamble would be suspended for two games if he challenged at the tribunal and lost.

The Cats will announce Tuesday whether they challenge or accept the panel's verdicts.

Three other players face one-game suspensions from the weekend.

Melbourne's Brad Miller could miss this weekend's game against Carlton for engaging in rough conduct against North Melbourne's Daniel Pratt, Collingwood's Nick Maxwell is likely to miss the Magpies game against the Kangaroos for striking Carlton's Marc Murphy, and Fremantle's Steven Dodd could miss this weekend's game against Adelaide for tripping Richmond's Jack Riewoldt.

Miller crashed into the back of Pratt at the MCG on Saturday, but could also pay for a bad record, as he cannot avoid a one-game suspension with an early guilty plea.

Maxwell's strike at the MCG was considered more serious and drew seven activation points (intentional, medium impact, high contact), but he can reduce a potential three-game suspension to a one-game ban by accepting a guilty plea.

Dodd was reported for tripping Riewoldt at Subiaco Oval, and was also penalised for a bad record, which means the only way he can avoid a ban is by successfully challenging.

The Demons, Dockers and Magpies will all announce their decisions on Tuesday.
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Sportal reported later on Tuesday: Six players have accepted penalties handed down by the MRP.

Essendon's Sam Lonergan was fined $1950 lighter for his negligent contact with an umpire during last Friday night's loss to the Western Bulldogs at Docklands while Bulldogs skipper Brad Johnson has accepted the same penalty for the same offence.

Melbourne's Brad Miller has accepted a one-match sanction for his heavy bump on North's Daniel Pratt and one-match penalties have been agreed to also by Geelong forward Ryan Gamble and Collingwood's Nick Maxwell, both for striking.

Veteran Adelaide defender Nathan Bassett has accepted a reprimand and 60 points towards his future record for striking Hawthorn's Rick Ladson at York Park on Sunday.
 

In other charges, Adelaide's Nathan Bassett can accept a reprimand by pleading guilty to a minor strike on Hawthorn's Rick Ladson in Launceston

Essendon's Sam Lonergan and the Western Bulldogs' Brad Johnson can both accept $1950 fines for making contact with an umpire at Docklands.

The AFL webpage also reported: Other incidents that were assessed but dismissed by the MRP were Carlton's Nick Stevens for striking Collingwood's Alan Didak, Essendon's Nathan Lovett-Murray for making contact with Bulldog Ryan Hargrave, Geelong's Trent West for making contact with St Kilda's Xavier Clarke, Collingwood's Dale Thomas for making contact with Carlton's Stevens and Fremantle's Chris Tarrant for making contact with Richmond's Kelvin Moore.

Dual Brownlow medallist Adam Goodes was also cleared for a clash with West Coast's Tyson Stenglein in the third quarter of Saturday night's match.

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They said it ...
Free agency inevitable: Matthews
Brisbane coach Leigh Matthews believes it is inevitable that the AFL adopts free agency.

Matthews said it would be "almost impossible" for the AFL's mooted West Sydney and Gold Coast clubs to become a reality under the current trade and draft system.

Player agent Ricky Nixon is threatening legal action against the AFL if they don't introduce free agency.

The AFL Players Association is also campaigning for its introduction.

Matthews said he believed free agency would ensure the emergence of the West Sydney and the Gold Coast clubs.

"I think there is an inevitability about free agency, in some shape or form it will come in," he said.

"And the fact that there is two new clubs that the AFL wants to form that gives a reason (for its adoption).

"Without free agency it would be almost impossible to put those clubs together."

Fox Sports, April 15, 2008

l Richard Pratt expects AFL clarification
Carlton president Richard Pratt has issued the AFL with an ultimatum – to either back his leadership of the Blues or come out and tell him they no longer want him in control of the club.

Pratt, one of Australia's richest men, says he is tired of the speculation surrounding his suitability to remain Carlton president since his company Visy received a record $36 million fine last November from Australia's competition watchdog the ACCC (Australian Competition and Consumer Commission) after being found guilty of price-fixing.

Since then, Pratt, a former Carlton under 19's player who was asked to take over as club president in 2007 as the Blues battle through the most difficult period both on and off the field in their history, has been subject to constant criticism that he should stand aside as Blues' president.

But speaking on Sunday at the official president' lunch before Sunday's clash with arch-rivals Collingwood at the MCG, Pratt said it was up to the AFL to either back him or tell him to step aside as Blues' president.

"For me it is a privilege to serve Carlton and I will continue to serve the club as long as the members want me to and my health, my family and my other commitments allow." – Herald Sun

l After-shock from Showdown and the Derby
All four sides who participated in the Round 3 Showdown and Western Derby contests suffered defeats at the weekend. It brought to light the thought that sides suffer from the intensity released with each cross-town meeting.

The facts of what has happened the next week in all such contests is laid before you for a judgement –

Showdown – Adelaide v Port Adelaide

Western Derby – Fremantle v West Coast

Please tell me if you believe any distinct pattern of results is apparent.

Stab Kicks ...
n Regular reader Peter Coatman responded yesterday – Bruce Kennedy's view that "Geelong's effort in winning 23 of its past 24 matches is more impressive than the 1952-53 team's record 23 in a row" – we all know the records for the longest winning sequences, but what's the record for the longest sequence of matches to include only one loss? The longest I know of is Essendon's 33 games in 1949-51, which included 16 wins in a row, followed by a loss, followed by another 16 wins in a row, but I'm not certain if that's the all-time record.

Will look deeply into FootyWorks for what you seek Peter, and get back to you.

n Thank you to reader Dale Kerr who wrote – There's an error in that article with the numbers. It states "Port Adelaide became the 11th grand finalist and the first club in 25 years to lose its first FOUR games of the following season". The article clearly points out that Port are the 11th grand finalist to lose the first THREE games of the following year. Otherwise, they are the FIFTH grand finalist to lose the first FOUR games of the following year. And if they lose again in Round 5, they will be the THIRD grand finalist to lose the first FIVE games of the following year.

n Official AFL crowds of Round 4 topped 315,414 for a progressive total of 1,297,678 – see wider detail in *Match Review* and *Attendances* ...

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Monday, April 14

Round 4 – Match Review Panel
Hall is one charge of many from weekend


Barry Hall's striking charge heads a long list of cases for the AFL Match Review Panel to consider from the weekend round of matches.

The seriousness of the Hall incident, where the Sydney captain concussed West Coast opponent Brent Staker with a punch to the jaw in the first quarter on Saturday night at Stadium Australia at Homebush, means the MRP might refer the matter to the tribunal.

Hall has no applicable record, but that will not save him a big suspension.

In a late Sunday press conference Hall apologised to Staker for punching him. Hall, who later broke his wrist when he ran into an advertising board on the boundary, says his actions were unacceptable.

"It was just a bit of a mind snap," he said. "There could be ifs, buts, maybies, this happened, that happened, but regardless that shouldn't happen."

"I certainly didn't want it to be that severe, that's for sure."

Hall says he made a mistake and is prepared to cop any punishment from the AFL tribunal on the chin.

"I threw a punch, yeah it hit him, did I want it to hit him as bad and be off for the rest of the game? No," he said.

"But as I said I put myself in that situation, I'll cop whatever comes my way."

Melbourne defender Brad Miller was also booked on Saturday for alleged rough conduct against North Melbourne's Daniel Pratt, after he cannoned into him at the MCG.

Geelong youngster Ryan Gamble was booked for striking St Kilda onballer Nick Dal Santo.

Cats ruckman Trent West will come under video review for an incident that resulted in Saints utility Xavier Clarke being stretchered from the ground.

On Sunday, Carlton onballer Nick Stevens was booked for striking Collingwood utility Alan Didak at the MCG.

The MRP will go over the incidents on Monday and, if the tribunal is needed, it will sit on Tuesday night – Yahoo! Sport

l Worth noting ...
The penetrating words of Patrick Smith in The Australian – more ...

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POOR STARTS BY GRAND FINALISTS THE NEXT YEAR

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Port Adelaide became the 11th grand finalist and the first club in 25 years to lose its first four games of the following season –
 
Port Adelaide 2007 GF in 2008 lost the first four games
Richmond 1982 GF in 1983 lost the first five games
North Melb 1975 GF in 1976 lost the first three games
North Melb 1974 GF in 1975 lost the first four games
Collingwood 1958 GF in 1959 lost the first five games
North Melb 1950 GF in 1951 lost the first three games
South Melb 1945 GF in 1946 lost the first four games
Melbourne 1941 GF in 1942 lost the first three games
Richmond 1929 GF in 1930 lost the first three games
South Melb 1914 GF in 1915 lost the first three games
Collingwood 1911 GF in 1912 lost the first three games

Bruce Kennedy notes for the seasons 1976-2007, there have been 36 occasions when teams have been 0-4. None of them made the finals.

The closest one has come to making the cut was Melbourne (9th) in 1995.

The last team to rise from 0-4 to make the finals was North Melbourne in 1975, and the Kangaroos took the flag that year.

original article from DARYL TIMMS, Herald Sun, The Pulse, April 8, 2008


Sunday, April 13

Round 4
Bulldogs survive exhilarating Bomber challenge
North comfortably dispose of Melbourne
Geelong easily beat the Saints by seven goals
Solid Sydney thump the Eagles
Gutsy Brisbane fightback flattens Port
Hawks overpower Adelaide
Carlton break the drought after 14 defeats
Richmond flog Dockers by 10 goals


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Facts and trivia from Round 5 in ...
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The Stats that Matter* – *Match Review* ... more
u The season in scores and results – Stats Update 2008

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Stab Kicks ...
n In anticipation of Sunday's flogging at Subiaco, Gerry McGuire has his "Put Terry on the Ferry" campaign on the boil and believes that Mick Gatto following his disappointment in Singapore could be just the man to be a minder of Terry – looking over his shoulder, giving him helpful hints and the like. Gerry wants to know if Mr Gatto would shift his efforts to the Tiger cause ... I have replied to Gerry that I'm uncertain of Mr Gatto's more immediate plans ...

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Bruce Kennedy
Current 23 from 24 better than 1952-53?
The assessment by Bruce Kennedy is that Geelong's effort in winning 23 of its past 24 matches is more impressive than the 1952-53 team's record 23 in a row.

Given that the current Cats were pipped on the post by Domenic Cassisi's successful snap for Port Adelaide in Round 21 last year, they have proved triumphant in every other respect.

Here's a statistical comparison of the two feats:
  Games
Won
Games
Lost
Games
won by
<13pts
Games
won by
>39pts
Games
won by
>59pts
1952-53 23 0 3 11 1
2007-08 23 1 2
also 1 loss
13 8

The 1952-53 Cats' For/Agst was 2047-1255 giving a percentage of 163.1
The 2007-08 Cats' For/Agst is 2918-1720 giving a percentage of 169.7

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Bruce Kennedy – Obso's on Round 4
Eagles slump to worst start since 1989
l West Coast is enduring its worst start to a season since arguably 1989, when it was 0-4 after four rounds. The last time the Eagles were 1-3 (77.7%) was in 1996. This season they are 1-3 (66.3%)

l After four rounds in 2008, there have been only five matches decided by 12 points or less. The last time there were fewer results decided by 12 points or less was in 1996 when there had been just three instances after four rounds.

l Three teams – Hawks, Cats, Bulldogs – are on 4-0 after four rounds. The portents are normally good for finals action for sides on 4-0. During the period 1975-2007, there were 44 instances. Of those, 10 won premierships, a further eight were grand finalists, and 39 were finalists. What about the five which dropped out? Here’s what happened:

u Collingwood (2000) went to 5-0, promptly lost nine on the trot, and finished second last on 7-15
u Geelong (1999) also went to 5-0, also lost nine on the trot, and finished 11th on 10-12
u Adelaide (1996) crumbled to finish 12th on 8-14
u Geelong (1983) staggered to ninth on 8-14 (12 teams; top four)
u Essendon (1975) steadily faded to eighth on 10-12 (12 teams; top four)

Maybe the Cats aren’t home and hosed yet.

Saturday, April 12

Round 4
Bulldogs survive exhilarating Bomber challenge


The Western Bulldogs overran Essendon in the last term to win by 30 points on Friday night under the closed roof at Docklands Stadium.

Yahoo! Sport noted: The undermanned Bombers took it up to the heavily-favoured Bulldogs and led by 11 points early in the final quarter, but the Dogs then kicked six unanswered goals to win by five goals.

Essendon's already long injury list looks to have become even worse, with Mark McVeigh and Sam Lonergan forced from the field early in the last term with hamstring injuries.

While the Bulldogs were out-run at stages and nearly lost control of the game, they rallied when it counted and their greater class proved crucial.

Midfielders Daniel Cross and Ryan Griffen helped steady their side and then put the game out of Essendon's reach, while ruckman Will Minson's important last quarter featured two goals.

Key defenders Dustin Fletcher and Patrick Ryder were outstanding for the Bombers and McVeigh's injury was particularly damaging given his game.

The Bulldogs, who fell away badly last season, have now opened with four-straight wins – the equal of their best VFL-AFL seasons of 1946, 1961, 1998 and 2006.

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Facts and trivia from Round 5 in ...
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The Stats that Matter* – *Match Review* ... more
u The season in scores and results – Stats Update 2008

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They said it ...
Demetriou ambushed on free agency
The Australian carries a must-read piece by Patrick Smith – more ...

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They said it ...
Report for duty – unusual tribunal charges
Just when everyone thought Hawthorn's Mark Williams had put his rifle away, out he comes and urinates on the ground before Box Hill's game on Sunday, April 6.

While there were 150 successful charges laid in the AFL last year, none was for taking a leak.

The 150 charges are detailed in the Tribunal 2007 file.

Over the seasons there have been some bizarre reports.

u In 1909 four Carlton footballers were charged with bribery. Two were found guilty – Alex 'Bongo' Lang and Doug Fraser – and suspended for 99 games.

u In 1921, St Kilda's Harry Moyes was banned for one match for throwing the football at a boundary umpire.

u In 1924, South Melbourne's Arthur Hando was found guilty, but not suspended, for shaking a goalpost.

u Carlton's Alex Duncan received a four-match ban for throwing the ball at Geelong's Lloyd Hagger in 1926.

u Geelong's Jim Warren was suspended the same season for two matches for adopting a fighting "attitude".

u Fitzroy's Frank Raymond was rubbed out for two matches in 1930 for refusing to return to the mark.

u In 1935, North Melbourne's Jim Anderson escaped suspension after being booked for ridiculing an umpire.

u Collingwood great Harry Collier was reported in 1937 for spitting at a South Melbourne supporter's face. He was cleared.

u In the 1945 Grand Final, South's Ted Whitfield was found guilty and not suspended for running away and trying to remove his guernsey.

u Geelong's Russell Renfrey was fingered in 1947 for wearing a ring. He was not suspended.

u Nathan G Brown was fined $5000 when he gave the bird to the crowd while playing for the Bulldogs

u And Richmond's Brendan Bower escaped penalty in 1986 when he was found guilty of rubbing mud to the face of St Kilda's Phil Narkle. Yes, the game was at Moorabbin.

DARYL TIMMS, Herald Sun, The Pulse, April 8, 2008

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Friday, April 11

Round 4 selections
Bombers weakened; Lloyd lost to calf strain


Essendon's early-season injury woes have deepened, with captain Matthew Lloyd ruled out of their AFL clash tonight against the Western Bulldogs.

Yahoo! Sport reported: The club says Lloyd has suffered a calf strain and his absence means they will be without their two star forwards for the game against the unbeaten Bulldog.

Scott Lucas is also out of action until mid-season after injury his knee early in the round-one win over North Melbourne.

The Bombers were already without speedster Leroy Jetta with the hamstring injury he suffered last Saturday night in the win over Carlton, while Courtenay Dempsey is recovering from a hamstring problem.

Lloyd's absence will dramatically shorten the odds for the Bulldogs.

In a statement posted on the club's website, Essendon team manager David Calthorpe said they were unsure how Lloyd's injury happened or how long he would be out of action. Calthorpe added that Lloyd was ruled out after failing to complete a fitness test on Thursday.

"He had a light training session on Tuesday and had a kicking session yesterday but felt some soreness later that night," Calthorpe was quoted as saying. "We don't know the extent of the injury just yet, but we are hoping that it is only minor calf strain. There is no particular incident that Matthew is aware of that caused the injury, so it's difficult to assess if it's a result of a knock that he received or is simply a strain. He will miss this week's game and we will monitor the injury over the next week."

Essendon recalled Nathan Lovett-Murray and Henry Slattery, while Scott West's knee injury means Nathan Eagleton will return to the `Dogs line-up.

St Kilda will move a step closer to finally settling their defence in Saturday's match against unbeaten Geelong at Docklands when they welcome back key backman Matt Maguire. He has endured rotten luck with injury for the last few seasons and a leg injury delayed his start to this year.

Former Sydney defender Sean Dempster will make his Saints debut, while they have dropped Raphael Clarke and Jarryn Geary. The Cats recalled Ryan Gamble for Shannon Byrnes.

In other teams news, Fremantle dropped experienced pair Matthew Carr and Heath Black for Sunday's home game against Richmond. Usually, teams only confirm omissions for Sunday games on the Friday night.

The Dockers added Chris Tarrant, Dean Solomon, Luke McPharlin, Scott Thornton and Garrick Ibbotson to their squad of 25.

The WA clubs have been busy at selection, with West Coast making five changes for Saturday night's match in Sydney against the Swans.

Matt Priddis (knee) and David Wirrpanda (hamstring) are forced omissions, while the Eagles dropped Brad Ebert, Chad Fletcher and Mark Nicoski.

Speculation continues that ruckman Dean Cox is in doubt with a foot problem.

Steven Armstrong, Jamie McNamara, Matt Rosa and Chris Masten were promoted and Matt Spangher will be the fourth Eagle this year to make his senior debut.

By contrast, the Swans made no changes.

Ben Ross is set for his senior debut in Saturday's MCG match against Melbourne, one of three additions to the North line-up. Ed Lower and Jesse Smith also return to the side, with ruckman David Hale (quad) injured and Leigh Harding and Andrew Swallow dropped.

The Demons recalled Matthew Whelan and Mark Jamar for Paul Johnson (hand) and Colin Garland.

Winless Port Adelaide are unchanged for Saturday night's home match against Brisbane, who dropped Robert Copeland and Albert Proud for Troy Selwood and Cheynee Stiller.


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They said it ...
Contest likely over Grybas estate
The parents and girlfriend of football commentator Clinton Grybas are heading for a bitter legal showdown over his estate.

Court documents reveal Grybas died leaving an estate including $460,000 in savings in three bank accounts and a $5500 Mitsubishi Lancer.

Parents Victor and Sandra Grybas were this week named administrators of their son's estate.

But it is believed that the former 3AW and Fox Sports celebrity's girlfriend Laurenna Toulmin is likely to sue them to claim the whole estate – more ...

SHELLEY HADFIELD, Herald Sun, April 10

Stab Kicks ...
n Spoke with Sarah Jones of Fox Sports last evening as she checked out the last time an Essendon side went in without both Matthew Lloyd and Scott Lucas – it was Round 15, 1999.

Essendon has won just two of its past 25 matches without Lloyd. And Lloyd has kicked 10 goals in his three outings this year.

n AFL Tasmania has announced that the 1958 Centenary Carnival team will be inducted into the State Football Hall of Fame. The team beat Western Australia and South Australia for the first time at the same carnival.

Midfielder, Col Moore, says it was a versatile line-up, with great players including Stuart Spencer and Darrel Baldock. He says beating Western Australia created a lot of excitement – ABC Sport

n I'm certain most players will be against it – Monday night football. It will precipitate my retirement.

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Thursday, April 17, 2008


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