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Thursday, November 29

l Bulldogs hand No.3 jumper to Andrejs Everitt
The No.3 jumper has been worn by three of the greatest figures in Western Bulldogs history, but retired star Chris Grant believes youngster Andrejs Everitt can live up to it.

It is a bold call, given the 18-year-old brother of Sydney veteran Peter Everitt is just eight matches into his AFL career.

The club offered Grant the option of having the number retire with him, but the Bulldogs' games record-holder decided to yesterday hand it to Everitt.

The decision not to retire the jumper illustrates the high expectations the club has of the key-position prospect, with the No.3 worn by Bulldogs legend Ted Whitten, captain of the club's team of the century and before that, by another former club captain and team of the century member Arthur Olliver, who played in the 1930s and 1940s and, like Whitten, once held the Bulldogs' games record.

l AFL investigator continues West Coast interviews
The AFL’s special investigator Bill Gillard QC continued interviewing several high-profile West Coast personnel in Perth on Wednesday – including midfielder Daniel Kerr, delisted Daniel Chick and chief executive Trevor Nisbett.

Justice Gillard's inquiry into the Eagles is covering a number of areas, including player behaviour and club strategies – The West Australian

l WA fitness guru goes to the Devils
After finishing last with just two wins for the season in 2007, VFL side the Tasmanian Devils have made the decision to overhaul their fitness techniques, beginning by hiring Western Australian Michael Dobbin as the club’s full-time fitness coach.

Dobbin, who previously played with WAFL club Subiaco and most recently spent time playing in the NTFL while working at the state’s institute of sport, has already taken the Devils through several gruelling fitness tests in his first week in the Apple Isle – Footygoss

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Your thoughts – Kathryn Michaelsen
l AFL on a thrashing to nothing
Graeme Cornes and Graham Moss, have aired their views. The measured thoughts of Kathryn Michaelsen from her seat in Adelaide should also generate further thoughts on where each of us sit on the subject.

While this 'dream team' game appears to be a kind of compromise over some kind of 'state of origin' game or carnival, the AFL was on a thrashing to nothing over how to signify the 150th anniversary of Australian football.

If you have a 'state of origin' game (a concept only 30 years old), which state should play Victoria (as the game was invented in Victoria, and was once called Victorian Rules)? and if this state (SA) SHOULD play the Vics, why reject other states? then, if you have more than two interested states, how many coaches would release players for a series of games during a season. Every state in Australia and even New Zealand (who participated in the 1908 football carnival) has an argument as to being involved in this celebration.

Over the 150 years Victoria has been central in the games invention and development – Yes, other states have made great contributions to its development and popularity, but as the cradle of the game Victoria deserves its place as the host and the home team. The arguing by other states can not be based in a provincial view of the AFL being Victoria centric or bending to the will of Victorians – a celebration of the 150 years of what became the game we know today must come from a recognition of the foundations of the game in the 1850s in Melbourne.

The passing of 150 years have imbued us with state rivalries which make many of us staunchly defend our state's competition or state team especially those opposed to the Big V – that has been a driving idea in promoting football in those states (apart from the attractiveness of the game itself). One ludicrous idea to celebrate the anniversary is to select a number of players from across the country irrespective of their state of origin, mix them up divide them into to teams (that signify what?) representative of nothing more than possibly a paranoia of having someone representing Victoria in the game.

Imagine if this game were to be as described, Crows player playing against a Crows player – I can hear the shrill cry from KG Cunningham now ... or if a Victorian playing against a Victorian celebrating a game invented in Victoria – I can equally hear the smug self satisfied spouting of Sam Newman on that issue … The arguments would degenerate and send the game and perhaps the whole attempt at celebrating the sesquicentenary into irrelevance.

The AFL was on a thrashing to nothing in whatever way they decided to celebrate the anniversary. I believe the game that is planned in the best that could have been put together by the AFL taking into consideration what would have been the likely availability of players, and the interest of the wider football community.

The alternatives may well have been; a re-enactment of the game between Scotch College v Melbourne Grammar of August 1858 (would anyone care?), a game between the two oldest football clubs in Australia (the second and third oldest football clubs of any code in the world) – Melbourne and Geelong (there are two a year anyway), or do nothing.

Kathryn Michaelsen

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Historian James Hothersall mused from Adelaide yesterday –

There is no doubt that our game has evolved from 'the handling game'.  Despite this fact it is scurrilous to suggest the 1858 game was rugby. In reality football of 1850s was not rugby, soccer or Australian football. It was just a football game from which the Victorian game evolved.

 

The rivalry between codes has become somewhat boring … many of the arguments are based on an over simplification of football’s history.

 

Rugby also looks down its nose at the NFL, despite some clubs and colleges having a longer history (Arizona Cardinals were formed in 1898, ten years before the fabled South Sydney).

 

As for matters of football history: Mason’s seminal work has not yet been surpassed ...
n Chronology of football since 1858

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Wednesday, November 28

l Carlton reports first profit since 2003
The Blues announced it had bounced back in a big way on Tuesday when it posted a $2.94 million profit for the financial season ending October 31st.

It is the first off-field windfall enjoyed by the club since 2003.

Fox Sports reported debt has been reduced from $8.5m to $6.5m, while chief executive Greg Swann noted the football club result now incorporates the operations of the social club, which were transferred two months ago.

One of the features of Carlton's financial turnaround was a record membership of 35,431, up 7000 on the previous year's figure.

Swann said the Blues now aimed to have the biggest membership of any Victorian club.

n 2007 financial forecasts and results – more

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They said it ...
Fletcher questioned in Eagles player probe
Eagles midfielder Chad Fletcher faced a 45-minute grilling yesterday as retired Victorian Supreme Court judge William Gillard, QC, turned his attention to events in Las Vegas 12 months ago as part of his inquiry into the off-field behaviour of West Coast players.

Fletcher was one of seven players spoken to yesterday, with more to come today. His interview came as it was revealed that all players set to be questioned by Gillard had been offered legal representation by the AFL Players Association.

It is not known how many players accepted that offer but at least one player will have his own legal representation. It is believed that midfielder
Daniel Kerr will be represented by Perth barrister John Prior.

Fletcher's mystery collapse in Las Vegas during West Coast's end-of-season trip after winning the 2006 AFL premiership was one of a spate of off-field misadventures, including Kerr being charged twice with assault, and
Ben Cousins being sacked by the club and suspended by the AFL this year for bringing the game into disrepute.

Other players spoken to by Gillard yesterday included 2006 Norm Smith medallist
Andrew Embley, All-Australian ruckman Dean Cox, Tyson Stenglein, Quinten Lynch and Adam Selwood. Former chairman Dalton Gooding is also believed to have been spoken to, along with new chairman Mark Barnaba.

MARK DUFFIELD, The West Australian, November 28, 2007

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They said it ...
Cornes and Moss rubbish "Dream Team" concept
West Australian football champion Graham Moss has canned the AFL's decision to feature a Victorian side against an all-stars team at the MCG in May.

His criticism follows the extraordinary public spray South Australian football legend
Graham Cornes gave the game after it was officially launched on Monday.

Both Moss and Cornes say their states should field individual sides, rather than being throw into a "Dream Team" with other states and territories, to combat Victoria in a Hall of Fame game to celebrate 150 years of Australian football.

Cornes labelled the game a joke, a disgrace and the ultimate insult to every football state in Australia, except Victoria. He called on players picked in the non-Victorian Dream Team to boycott the match.

South Australia and Western Australia have easily enough players in the 16 league clubs to field their own teams.

Moss (the 1976 Brownlow Medallist) blamed the attitude of today's players for the AFL's failure to reinstate a full State-of-Origin carnival. "I can't see why players can't play an additional game a year to represent their state," Moss said.

Dream Team coach
Mark Williams yesterday dismissed complaints from Cornes that the concept was pathetic.

"Graham is probably living a little in the past. He likes to see himself in the paper with a state guernsey on. If we are trying to get the best of the best, this is certainly that," Williams said.

Victoria's assistant coach
Kevin Sheedy had similar thoughts.

"Graham Cornes, he's just got to take off his desert boots and that duffle coat," Sheedy said. "The guy's got to get into the new world."

DARYL TIMMS, Herald Sun, November 28, 2007
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n The AFL on Tuesday warned players who sit out next year's AFL all-star showpiece game will be ineligible to play for their clubs the following week.

n Mark Stevens reported in the Herald Sun that players selected in next year's one-off representative game are set to pass up a pay cheque of about $10,000 each.

Match payments, totalling at least $500,000, will almost certainly be donated to a pool to help past players.

AFL Players' Association chief executive
Brendon Gale last night confirmed the payment would boost the fund created to provide medical support for former players.

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l Permission to train update
The AFL on Tuesday updated the unlisted players who have received permission to train –

Adelaide – nil

Brisbane Lions
Patrick Garner (Brisbane); William Hamill (Brisbane rookie); Pearce Hanley (Ballanghaderreen, Ireland)

Carlton
Michael Shields (County Cork Ireland)

Collingwood
Ryan Colbert (Old Xavierians); Kevin Dyas (County Armagh Ireland); Michael Griffiths (East Fremantle); Daniel Nichols (Collingwood rookie); James Wall (St Kilda rookie)

Essendon
Jarrod Atkinson (Bendigo Bombers); Ashley Arrowsmith (Calder Cannons); James Bristow (Gippsland Power); Brent Connelly (Gippsland Power); Tim Plummer (Bendigo Bombers)

Fremantle
Blake Broadhurst (Subiaco); Ryley Dunn (Fremantle); Kyal Horsley (Subiaco); Keaton McRob (East Fremantle); Calib Mourish (Fremantle)

Geelong – nil

Hawthorn
James Allen (Box Hill); Luke Barker (Box Hills); Nathan Batsanis (Port Adelaide rookie); Brett Collins (Hawthorn rookie); Joel Coombes (Box Hill); Ed Curnow (Geelong Falcons); Stefan Garrubba (Casey Scorpions); Sam Gibson (Hawthorn rookie); Jackson Hall (Gippsland Power); Adam Iacobucci (Northern Bullants); Tom Langford (Port Melbourne); Andrew McQualter (St Kilda); Lukas Markovic (Box Hill); Ryan Normington (Murray Bushrangers); Hugh Sandilands (Oakleigh Chargers); Phil Smith (Calder Cannons); Phil Zarra (Sandringham)

Kangaroos
Jarrod Bannister (Northern Bullants); David Trotter (Kangaroos); James Wilsen (St George)

Melbourne
Daniel Hughes (Melbourne rookie); Alister Neville (Coburg); Ashley Sampi (West Coast); Jonathan Simpkin (Sydney); Peter Summers (Sandringham); Shane Valenti (Sandringham); Stef Martin (Sandringham)

Port Adelaide
Jesse Aish (Norwood); Lachlan Button (Glenelg); Luke Carey (Port Magpies); Tom Carroll (South Adelaide); Ryan Darling (Sturt); Aaron Day (Glenelg); Sam Fairclough (Woodville West Torrens); Nathan Grima (Central District); Todd Grima (Geelong rookie); Daniel Havelberg (Central District); Matthew Jaensch (Sturt); Luke Jarrad (Woodville West Torrens); Scott Luders (West Adelaide); James Moss (Central District); Alan Obst (Central District); Steve Wenman (West Adelaide); Ryan Willits (West Adelaide)

Richmond
Daniel Boyle (Murray Bushrangers); Ian Callinan (Central District); Clayton Collard (East Fremantle); David Fanning (Port Melbourne); Joe Gazzo (Coburg); David Gourdis (Subiaco); Andrew Horne (Coburg); Cam Howat (Richmond rookie); Jarrod Silvester (Coburg); Will Sullivan (Western Jets); Chris Varsamakis (Eltham); Chris Waller (Beaumaris); Trent Zorner (Eastern Ranges)

St Kilda
Rohan Bail (Mt Gravatt); Michael Barlow (Shepparton United); Ben Woods (Riverview)

Sydney
Brendan Murphy (County Carlow Ireland); Matt O'Dwyer (Sydney); Jake Orreal (no previous club); Sam Rowe (Sydney)

West Coast
Ashley Thornton (West Coast rookie); Beau Wilkes (West Coast rookie)

Western Bulldogs
Cameron Lockwood (Williamstown); Scott Meyer (Williamstown); Liam Picken (Williamstown); Patrick Rose (Williamstown); Ryan Williams (La Trobe)

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Tuesday, November 27

l Kangaroos face Gold Coast ban
Caroline Wilson reports in The Age: The AFL will consider redrawing the 2008 fixture and pulling the Kangaroos out of Gold Coast games should they reject the league's $100 million relocation offer.

In what would prove a historic and unprecedented move, The Age understands the AFL now believes it would be impossible to expand into the northern market with the Kangaroos next season if they choose to remain a Melbourne-based club.

The AFL fixture would be altered to put in place games more attractive and saleable to the Gold Coast market.

Kangaroos chief executive Rick Aylett yesterday addressed the club's players, coach Dean Laidley and staff assuring them that the club had not rejected the AFL's proposal but wanted another year to make up its mind, plunging it into survival mode for yet another season.

With the original December 1 deadline now only days away, the view of the James Brayshaw faction is that the AFL will weaken and allow it at least another season to reach a decision, but the league has indicated it will set about creating a 17th club in the new year should the Kangaroos continue to stall – more

l AFL confirms May 10 All-Star match at MCG
As part of football’s 150th anniversary celebrations, the AFL confirmed on Monday that a one-off All-Star match between Victoria and a best of the rest ‘Dream Team’ would take place at the MCG on May 10 in 2008.

League officials named Geelong premiership coach Mark Thompson the coach of Victoria with his former Essendon mentor Kevin Sheedy as assistant for the game and Brisbane superstar Jonathan Brown skipper.

Port Adelaide coach Mark Williams will lead the ‘Dream Team’ with former Melbourne coach Neale Daniher as his assistant, while dual Norm Smith medallist Andrew McLeod will captain the team from all states other than Victoria.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou suggested that the match could be ‘the highest quality game that’s ever been played’, aiming to secure the 50 best players in the competition for the contest.

Squads of 35 will be picked early next season with teams of 25 players a side to be selected for the match – Footygoss

l Leon Davis suffers broken jaw in hotel attack
Collingwood's Leon Davis suffered a broken jaw when he was attacked after leaving a suburban hotel on Friday night. He underwent surgery at Epworth Hospital on Saturday and was out of hospital the following day.

Sportal reports he will miss at least two weeks training and will not resume full contact work for 4-6 weeks.

Collingwood released a statement on Monday, saying it believed the assault was unprovoked. The club did not confirm whether the police had been advised, but it is believed Davis does not want to press charges.

l George Harris dies; a leviathan of Carlton FC
Former Carlton president George Harris, one of the most significant figures in the AFL club's history, died on Monday afternoon at the Memorial Home in Heidleberg, aged 84.

Harris held the post from 1964-74 and again from 1978-80, overseeing four premierships (1968, 1970, 1972, 1979).

Current president Dick Pratt paid tribute to Harris's contribution to the club.

"With the passing of George Harris, a leviathan of the Carlton Football Club has sadly been lost," Pratt said.

"In the pantheon of Carlton's long and successful history, few men – whether director, player, member or supporter – can truly say that they gave more to Carlton than him. Everyone at Carlton extends their deepest sympathies to the Harris family, on the passing of a man whose contributions to this club may never be surpassed."

The Blues had finished 10th in 1964, then the club's worst season, when Harris came to power at the head of the 12-member Progress Party.

Carlton promptly stunned the then-VFL when they engineered the defection of Ron Barassi from Melbourne, recruiting him as captain-coach.

That defection remains one of the biggest stories in VFL-AFL history.

Barassi led the Blues to the `68 flag, their first in 21 years, and also coached Carlton to the famous `70 premiership. The Blues rallied from 44 points behind at half-time in the 1970 grand final to beat Collingwood by 10 points.

Harris also helped to further enhance the bitter rivalry between Carlton and Collingwood when the Blues beat them by less than a goal in the 1979 grand final.

He infuriated Magpies fans post-match when he declared "What's better than beating Collingwood by 10 goals? Beating them by five points."

Harris was born in St Kilda in 1922 and survived the horrors of the Changi prison camp during the Second World War.

After the war he became a dentist but pursued business interests when he first vacated the presidency in 1974.

Then-Federal Treasurer Jim Cairns was dismissed from the position in 1975, after misleading parliament over allegations he had authorised Harris to pursue overseas loans for the government.

Harris's second presidency at Carlton ended with a bitter power struggle at board level in February, 1980.

A stroke left him mute in 1991 and he suffered from health problems for many years.

But he remained a passionate Blues fan and received a standing ovation when he attended a function for Carlton premiership players three years ago.

In February this year, Harris sent a letter to struggling Carlton urging the club to "please get your act together".

"I wish I could help. I can't, but my heart is still strong and it will always remain true Blue," he said.

Funeral arrangements are yet to be announced, but a service will be held at Carlton's home at Princes Park.

Harris's wife Jean died in 1999.

He is survived by four children – Ken, Andrew, Christine and Robert – eight grandchildren and four great grandchildren – Yahoo! Sport

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AFL sponsors really get a guernsey
AFL guernsey sponsors generate more than three times the media exposure rugby union sponsors attract and easily overshadow those of any other football code.

The average value of media exposure generated by Australian Football League team sponsors during the 2007 season was $3.49 million, compared with $2.46 million for National Rugby League club sponsors, $1.21 million for A League team sponsors and $1.07 for Super 14.

Ford, on the jersey of AFL premiers Geelong, achieved media exposure of almost $7 million throughout the year, slightly ahead of 3 Mobile, which sponsors Essendon.

"The average cost of being a club sponsor in the AFL is about $1 million, so those sponsors are getting an average of $3.50 (in media exposure) for every dollar they invest," according to Guy Port, of sponsorship measurement firm S-Comm, which conducted the survey.

"The averages by sport have increased year-on-year and the other three codes have been closing the gap on the AFL a little bit," Mr Port said.

Teams that make the finals can generate an additional 30 per cent to 40 per cent in media value for their sponsors, and long-running news stories, such as speculation over coaching staff and players, can increase sponsor exposure.

LARA SINCLAIR, The Australian, November 26, 2007

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n Minor time changes have been made to starts of 2008 matches – new times:

Round 3 – 5.10pm AEDT, Subiaco, West Coast v Fremantle
Round 3 – 8.10pm(n) AEDT, BCG (Gabba) Brisbane v Sydney

Round 9 – 7.40pm(n), MCG, Essendon v Richmond

The changes on Saturday April 5th are due to daylight savings which ends in Perth on March 30 but goes a further week until April 6th in the Eastern states when all clocks will return to standard time.

The time change from 7.10 to 7.40pm will allow for pre-match entertainment for the "Dreamtime at the G" event before the Essendon v Richmond game.


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Monday, November 26

l Printing glitch causes AFL embarrassment
The AFL has apologised for a printing error that has affected the privacy of potentially hundreds of its members.

The Age reports the league said it had already heard from 140 members who have received renewal forms that contain private details of other people.

"The AFL has been made aware that personal details such as name, email address, date of birth and phone numbers of some AFL members have been printed on the renewal forms of another member," the league said in a statement.

"The AFL is currently trying to ascertain how many members have been affected by this error, which occurred in the digital printing process at the mailhouse Printpoint, resulting in some personal contact details of some members appearing in renewal invoices addressed to another member.

"AFL Chief Commercial and Broadcasting Officer Gillon McLachlan said it appeared the error occurred in several batches of renewals that were mailed to AFL members over the past week although the exact number of members affected is not yet known.

"So far 140 members have rung to notify the AFL of the error."

McLachlan said the league apologised "unreservedly" for the privacy breach.

The league also said the breach did not affect financial information, such as credit card details.

Printpoint manager director Alan Rhodes also issued a statement, offering an "unreserved apology" for what he described as a "mechanical malfunction".

"We are working with the hardware suppliers to ascertain how this could have possibly happened," he added.

"We are concerned and regretful that this has happened and we are working positively with the AFL to rectify this problem.

"The information and data provided to us by the AFL was in the correct format and secure.

"I assure all AFL members that their personal details remain secure and no other incidents have occurred outside of the printing error."

The AFL has also asked that any members who receive renewals with other people's details call the league.

l Sheedy fast-tracked to Bombers' Hall of Fame
Essendon will forego the usual induction criteria and will elevate veteran former coach Kevin Sheedy to the club's Hall of Fame early in the new year.

Stephen Rielly
reports in The Age: Having put behind them the months of controversy that surrounded Sheedy's departure after 27 years and survived even a grassroots bid to oust chairman Ray Horsburgh and chief executive Peter Jackson because of it, the Dons have arranged with Sheedy a public rapprochement that it hopes will douse whatever fire remains over his exit.

Candidates for induction into the Essendon hall of fame are usually required to wait five years before they can be considered, but Horsburgh said yesterday that Sheedy would not be put on hold.

The Essendon AGM is scheduled for December 17th when the club will present its profit figures of $2.014m for the 2007 season which were announced last Thursday.

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Sunday, November 25

They said it ...
AFL to probe Chad Fletcher collapse
An inquiry into the culture of the West Coast Eagles could target an end-of-season trip to Las Vegas last year when Chad Fletcher allegedly stopped breathing and required emergency treatment.

AFL-appointed investigator William Gillard will interview players and staff in Perth this week.

Gillard met Eagles chief executive Trevor Nisbett for more than two hours in Melbourne on Thursday to discuss how the inquiry would proceed. It is not clear who he will interview.

The cause of Fletcher's dash for treatment has remained a mystery since reports of his Las Vegas close shave emerged last December.

The on-baller has continually declined to comment on the incident and hospital officials have refused requests to release any official documents that could shed light on his illness.

KIM HAGDORN, Sunday Herald Sun, November 25, 2007

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n The Australian Labor Party led by Kevin Rudd emphatically won Saturday's federal election for the House of Representatives recording a 5.6 per cent swing against the 11½-year dominance of the Liberal-National Party coalition of John Howard. At close of counting on Saturday night the PM appears to have lost his seat of Bennelong he had represented for 33 years. Howard (the second longest-serving Australian Prime Minister) is only the second PM to have lost his constituency while in office – Stanley Melbourne Bruce did so in 1929.

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The day the game kicked off
Letter to the Editor:
Sunday Telegraph, Sydney

Rugby league historian Sean Fagan is wrong in alleging that Australian football cannot trace its beginnings to a match in 1858 ("The 150-year-old hoax", ST, 18/11.

There is no doubt a football game was played on August 7, 1858 between the Scotch College and Melbourne Grammar on land where the MCG now stands.

The game was ostensibly encouraged by a letter to a newspaper by Tom Wills who was born in NSW, educated at the Rugby School in England and who later played cricket for Victoria. He suggested a football club be formed to keep cricketers fit in the off-season.

While that match was far from the game of Australian football we see today, it is considered by football historians as the very embryo of it.

The rules were a mish-mash of soccer and rugby, only to be codified in May 1859, a hand-written copy of which still exists.

IAN GRANLAND,
chairman,
NSW Australian Football History Committee

November 25, 2007

The original junk piece, complete with errors – http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22775763-5006065,00.html

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Saturday, November 24

AFL NAB 2007 Draft
Kreuzer to Carlton; Tigers get Cotchin
St Kilda regain Fraser Gehrig with pick 57

Carlton predictably took 18-year-old ruckman Matthew Kreuzer with the number one selection at the AFL NAB draft conducted in Melbourne on Saturday morning.

ABC Sport Online reported the Blues were always expected to select the highly regarded Kreuzer, who stands at just under 200 centimetres tall.

Kreuzer, who played for the Northern Knights in the Victorian under 18 competition, is the third number one draft pick to join the Blues in as many seasons following the club's selection of Marc Murphy and Bryce Gibbs in 2005 and 2006 respectively.

His Knights' team-mate Trent Cotchin was selected by Richmond with the number two overall pick while West Coast also followed the pre-draft form guide and chose local junior Chris Masten at number three with its opening selection.

The Eagles were only able to enter the draft as high as number three as part of the trade deal that saw their premiership captain Chris Judd move to the Blues.

Melbourne also looked west when it selected midfielder Cale Morton with the number four pick while the Bulldogs invested in local Victorian talent with the recruitment of Dandenong Stingrays forward Jarrad Grant.

Meanwhile, Fraser Gehrig will re-join St Kilda in 2008 despite retiring at the end of the season.

Gehrig announced his intention to apply for the draft earlier this week and the Saints selected the ageing forward at number 57 in addition to taking Murray Bushrangers ruckman Ben McEvoy with pick nine.

The list of all draft selections – more

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l Kangaroo fans show defiance against move north
Kangaroo fans have accused the AFL of "over-stating" its incentive package for the club to move north to the Gold Coast.

Yahoo! Sport reported members of the "We Are North Melbourne" supporters group on Thursday met with league officials to discuss its package, designed to encourage the Roos to move north.

The group claims the AFL's stated figure of more than $100 million should actually be reduced by half, as the Kangaroos would be entitled to over $50 million regardless of whether they moved to south-east Queensland.

The group claims the AFL would be allocating $50.7 million to the Kangaroos from 2008-14 in normal distribution funding, which would drastically reduce the size of the relocation package.

The supporters group, which is now firmly in favour of the Kangaroos board voting against relocation and staying in Melbourne, fears the club would lose its identity if it moved to the Gold Coast.

The Kangaroos board must decide between accepting the AFL's relocation package and staying in Melbourne.

Those on the Kangaroos board opposed to relocation have found backers pledging to spend up to $10 million in capital and $2 million in sponsorship.

The board has another two weeks to notify the AFL of its decision.

In the meantime a *Roo-sistence* campaign will feature a special event at Princes Bandroom in St Kilda next Thursday – click here to find out more ...

l League: rulebook to be left alone
The AFL announced Friday that no major changes will be made to the laws of the game for season 2008.

Even with the hands-in-the-back rule still a hot talking point, the League will see the rule remains in place without alteration in the new year.

The AFL has telegraphed they will focus on three specific areas next season – how the interchange bench is used, the deliberately *rushed* behind and the deliberate out of bounds rules will be analysed.

For the record two minor rule changes have been made:
EMERGENCY UMPIRE ABILITY TO END QUARTERS
* Rule 10.4.2 amended to read:
“Play in each quarter shall come to an end when any one of the field Umpires or emergency field Umpires hears the siren.”

RELOCATION OF CENTRE SQUARE AND CIRCLE
* Rule 4.3 amended to read:
“Where a Controlling Body is satisfied that the area within the Centre Square and Centre Circle will prevent the bouncing of the football or is otherwise in an unsuitable condition, it may direct the relocation of the Centre Square and or Centre Circle.”


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n Traded, Retired, Delisted, Acquired – more
n 2007 financial forecasts and results – more
n Oz-Wide, Premiers, Medals, Media Awards – more
n 2007 Club Champions, Best & Fairest awards – more

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Friday, November 23

l Collingwood launch radical Queensland plan
Caroline Wilson in Thursday's Age reported Collingwood on Wednesday launched a radical plan to become the AFL's team on the Gold Coast with a proposal to play up to six games at Carrara as early as next season.

Eddie McGuire
and his chief executive Gary Pert met AFL chiefs Mike Fitzpatrick and Andrew Demetriou and put forward the rival bid, assuring the AFL it would step into a new-look Gold Coast agreement should the Kangaroos reject the $100 million offer to move there.

McGuire, as long as four years ago, indicated interest in a push into the southern Queensland market but has been repeatedly told that the AFL wanted a permanently based team in the fast-growing region.

However, the Kangaroos' reluctance to commit to a move, due to their divided board and unwilling shareholders has seen the Magpies put forward an alternative.

It is understood that Fitzpatrick and Demetriou did not reject the offer out of hand following McGuire's insistence that the club's strong following in the region could prove a viable alternative for the AFL even without a permanent relocation – more
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This has prompted regular Footystats reader Leonard Colquhoun to comment:
Surely Caroline Wilson is having us on in this article? – especially in this paragraph:

"Should the, albeit left-field, offer by Collingwood be considered, the Magpies only interstate games would most likely take place at Carrara or the Gabba. "

Isn't it about time that the claim that 'we will play all our interstate games only at X' is rubbished for the nonsense that it is ?
 
It depends on the six clubs in WA, SA, Qld and NSW giving up their home games!!!    Get real, and stop pulling us, Eddie.
 
Carlton suggested this try-on as its 'solution' to the Sydney problem in the early 1990s.
 
Please, can someone with clout finally knock this recurrent stupidity on the head once and for all???!!!
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l Kangaroos get space to consider alternatives
Yahoo! Sport reports the AFL is committed to waiting until it hears from the Kangaroos before considering other possible ventures into the Gold Coast, such as that raised by Collingwood.

While the Kangaroos weighed up their options over whether to relocate north or stay in Melbourne, one of their rivals approached the league and inquired about playing in south-east Queensland if the Roos stay put.

Collingwood on Wednesday met with the AFL and discussed the possibility of playing six games at Carrara, possibly as early as next season.

But the AFL said it would not be entertaining any alternate ventures until it had heard from the Kangaroos, who have about a fortnight to decide whether to relocate.

The Kangaroos board must decide between accepting the AFL's $100 million relocation package and ensuring their long-term financial survival, and staying in Melbourne.

Those on the Kangaroos board opposed to relocation have found backers pledging to spend up to $10 million in capital and $2 million in sponsorship.

Kangaroos chief executive Ricky Aylett said the board was still weighing up the two proposals and had another two weeks to notify the AFL of its decision.

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They said it ...
Paul Roos slams "ridiculous" draft system
Sydney coach Paul Roos has slammed the AFL draft process, saying players are too young when they're selected and labelling it a ridiculous system littered with too much "crystal-balling".

The Swans have selections No. 11 and No. 26 in tomorrow's draft.

The Herald Sun carries the AAP report which states that while Roos has identified a handful of players he hopes to select, he's taken issue with the system.

Asked if the draft remained an inexact science, despite the huge amounts of data and footage available on prospective talent, Roos said "absolutely" before taking aim at the format.

"My thoughts are that they're too young, the kids, and it's too much of a lottery," Roos said.

"But that's what you're faced with and that's the system you've got to work with.

"There's just too much crystal-balling. We've done our own analysis on it, but if you look at the players and their average games, from my point of view it's ridiculous.

"You're going to have an early pick and you're not guaranteed a bloke's going to play more than 30 games. It's just crazy.

"That could be addressed if it was older because you are speculating with a lot of them."

Roos referred to Champion Data statistics revealed in the Herald Sun this week that showed No. 10 picks averaged just over 30 games for their career.

While Roos didn't specify what the cut-off age should be, the 2005 premiership coach said there were simply too many question marks over players picked in their teens.

Roos' opinions have been borne out at the Swans' selection table in recent years. Last year Sydney was the only club not to play any of its 2006 draft selections (not counting rookies or trades), and only one of the Swans' 2005 picks has appeared at AFL level – Matthew Laidlaw, who played one game last year.

Asked who Sydney was hoping to snare tomorrow, Roos said the club was seeking to add some speed to its workmanlike midfield.

Roos expected ruckman Matthew Kreuzer and midfielder Trent Cotchin to be the first two picks, but said it was wide open after that.

"You rank them and so forth but in a sense you don't really know when you're pick 11," he said.

"We'll just take the best player available and we're going to be dictated by 10 other clubs."

Herald Sun, November 23, 2007

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Essendon and Richmond post record profits
l Melbourne profit but well under expectations
Essendon and Richmond are the latest clubs to announce financial profit for the year ending October 31st in spite of both finishing in the lower half of the ladder.

The Bombers secured a net profit of $2.014m. Wooden spooners Richmond finished in the black by $1.031m.

Melbourne yesterday posted a profit of $96,689 – way under expectations and possibly impacted by an extraordinary run of injuries.

Meanwhile, The Age in an article relating to the move to Frankston in 2010 noted St Kilda expect a loss of some $300,000 on the trading year.

n 2007 financial forecasts and results – more

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Haw 13 9 2097 1855 113 52
Col 13 9 2011 1992 101 52
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Fre 10 12 2254 2198 103 40
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Round 1
Thursday, March 20

Carlton v Richmond, MCG(n), 6:10pm
Port Adelaide v Geelong, FP(n), 8:45pm
Saturday, March 22
Collingwood v Fremantle, MCG, 2:10pm
St. Kilda v Sydney, Dok(n), 7:10pm
West Coast v Brisbane, Sub(n), 7:40pm
Sunday, March 23
West.B'dogs v Adelaide, Dok, 1:10pm
Hawthorn v Melbourne, MCG, 4:40pm
Monday, March 24
Kangaroos v Essendon, Dok, 2:10pm

Round 2
Friday, March 28

Brisbane v Collingwood, BCG, 8:40pm
Saturday, Mar 29
Melbourne v WB'dogs, MCG, 2:10pm
Adelaide v West Coast, FP, 3.10pm
St. Kilda v Carlton, Dok(n), 7:10pm
Fremantle v Hawthorn, Sub(n), 7:40pm
Sunday, Mar 30
Sydney v Port Adelaide, SCG, 1:10pm
Geelong v Essendon, Dok, 2:10pm
Richmond v Kangaroos, MCG, 4:40pm

Round 3
Friday, April 4

WB'dogs v St. Kilda, Dok(n), 7:40pm
Saturday, April 5
Kangaroos v Hawthorn, Dok, 2:10pm
West Coast v Fremantle, Sub, 5:10pm
Brisbane v Sydney, BCG(n), 8:10pm
Essendon v Carlton MCG(n), 7:10pm
Sunday, April 6
Geelong v Melbourne KP, 1:10pm
Richmond v Collingwood, MCG, 2:10pm
Adelaide v Port Adelaide, FP, 4:40pm

Round 4
Friday, April 11

Essendon v WB'dogs, Dok(n), 7:40pm
Saturday, April 12
St. Kilda v Geelong, Dok, 2:10pm
Kangaroos v Melbourne, C,  4:10pm
Sydney v West Coast, Hom(n), 7:10pm
Port Adelaide v Brisbane, FP, 7:40pm
Sunday, April 13
Hawthorn v Adelaide, YPL, 1:10pm
Carlton v Collingwood, MCG, 2:10pm
Fremantle v Richmond, Sub, 4:40pm

Round 5
Friday, April 18

St. Kilda v Essendon, Dok(n), 7:40pm
Saturday, April 19
Geelong v Sydney, KP, 2:10pm
Adelaide v Fremantle, FP, 3.10pm
Brisbane v Hawthorn, BCG(n), 7:10pm
C'wood v Kangaroos, MCG(n), 7:10pm
Sunday, April 20
Melbourne v Carlton, MCG, 1:10pm
West.B'dogs v Richmond, Dok, 2:10pm
West Coast v Port Adel, Sub, 4:40pm

Round 6
Friday, April 25

Collingwood v Essendon, MCG, 2:40pm
Fremantle v Geelong, Sub(n), 8:40pm
Saturday, April 26
Carlton v Adelaide, MCG, 2:10pm
WB'dogs v West Coast, Dok(n), 7:10pm
Port Adelaide v St. Kilda, FP, 7:40pm
Sunday, April 27
Brisbane v Melbourne, BCG(n), 1:10pm
Kangaroos v Sydney, Dok, 2:10pm
Hawthorn v Richmond, MCG, 4:40pm

Round 7
Friday, May 2

West Coast v Carlton, Sub(n), 8:40pm
Saturday, May 3
Geelong v Brisbane, KP, 2:10pm
Hawthorn v Collingwood, MCG, 2:10pm
Richmond v St. Kilda, Dok(n), 7:10pm
Adelaide v Kangaroos, FP(n), 7:40pm
Sunday, May 4
Sydney v West.B'dogs, SCG, 1:10pm
Melbourne v Fremantle, MCG, 2:10pm
Essendon v Port Adelaide, Dok, 4:40pm

Round 8
Friday, May 16

St. Kilda v Collingwood, Dok(n), 7:40pm
Saturday, May 17
Hawthorn v Port Adel, YPL,  2:10pm
Richmond v Geelong, MCG, 2:10pm
Carlton v Brisbane, Dok(n), 7:10pm
Kangaroos v West Coast, C(n), 7:10pm
Sunday, May 18
Adelaide v Melbourne, FP, 1.10pm
Sydney v Essendon, Hom, 2:10pm
Fremantle v West.B'dogs, Sub, 4:40pm

Round 9
Friday, May 23

Collingwood v Geelong, MCG(n), 7:40
Saturday, May 24
Carlton v Fremantle, Dok, 2:10pm
Port Adelaide v Sydney, FP,  3.10pm
Essendon v Richmond, MCG  7:40pm
West Coast v Adelaide, Sub(n), 7:40pm
Sunday, May 25
Brisbane v St. Kilda, BCG(n), 1:10pm
Melbourne v Hawthorn, MCG,  2:10pm
West.B'dogs v Kangaroos, Dok, 4:40pm

Round 10
Friday, May 30

Adelaide v Essendon, FP(n), 8.10pm
Saturday, May 31
Coll'wood v West Coast, MCG, 2:10pm
Hawthorn v WB'dogs, York Park, 2:10
Brisbane v Kangaroos, BCG(n), 7:10pm
Geelong v Carlton, Dok, 7:10pm
Sunday, June 1
Sydney v Richmond, SCG, 1:10pm
St. Kilda v Melbourne, Dok, 2:10pm
Fremantle v Port Adelaide, Sub, 4:40pm

Round 11
Friday, June 6

Kangaroos v Geelong, Dok(n), 7:40pm
Saturday, June 7
Richmond v Adelaide, MCG, 2:10pm
Essendon v Hawthorn, Dok(n), 7:10pm
West Coast v Sydney, Sub(n), 7:40pm
Sunday, June 8
Brisbane v Fremantle, BCG(n), 1:10pm
St. Kilda v West.B'dogs, Dok, 2:10pm
Port Adelaide v Carlton